Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Mandate my arse!
Keir Starmer's time is up
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hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
On that note, just remembered that my dad (who fwiw is much more involved in "community life" than I am, the sort of person who's so madly observant that he doesn't just go to his own shul but also goes to other denomination's shuls when they need help making up the minyan) finally resigned from the Labour Party under Starmer's leadership in 2022. He had been assuming that, as a left-wing Jew, he'd get expelled sooner or later anyway, but the breaking point for him came when Sam Tarry got sacked as shadow transport minister for supporting a RMT picket. Which is just anecdata, but I suppose certainly goes to show that Labour isn't a safe space for Jews who think the Labour Party should represent the interests of workers.
Anyway, was mostly coming on this thread to check if anyone had posted this fantastic bit from a "Keir Stamrer's most personal interview yet"?
‘You asked me questions I’ve never asked myself’: Keir Starmer’s most personal interview yet
There are 12 days to go until the general election and the Labour leader is closing in on power. But who exactly is the man hoping to run Britain?
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
That article from labourlist says that Sam wasn't sacked for picketingOn that note, just remembered that my dad (who fwiw is much more involved in "community life" than I am, the sort of person who's so madly observant that he doesn't just go to his own shul but also goes to other denomination's shuls when they need help making up the minyan) finally resigned from the Labour Party under Starmer's leadership in 2022. He had been assuming that, as a left-wing Jew, he'd get expelled sooner or later anyway, but the breaking point for him came when Sam Tarry got sacked as shadow transport minister for supporting a RMT picket. Which is just anecdata, but I suppose certainly goes to show that Labour isn't a safe space for Jews who think the Labour Party should represent the interests of workers.
Anyway, was mostly coming on this thread to check if anyone had posted this fantastic bit from a "Keir Stamrer's most personal interview yet"?
‘You asked me questions I’ve never asked myself’: Keir Starmer’s most personal interview yet
There are 12 days to go until the general election and the Labour leader is closing in on power. But who exactly is the man hoping to run Britain?www.theguardian.com
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
In your own words, what would you say he was sacked for?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Well looks like the man with almost no inner life gets to sit in the big chair now. Maybe this bit of power, this position will be the one that finally fills the howling void.On that note, just remembered that my dad (who fwiw is much more involved in "community life" than I am, the sort of person who's so madly observant that he doesn't just go to his own shul but also goes to other denomination's shuls when they need help making up the minyan) finally resigned from the Labour Party under Starmer's leadership in 2022. He had been assuming that, as a left-wing Jew, he'd get expelled sooner or later anyway, but the breaking point for him came when Sam Tarry got sacked as shadow transport minister for supporting a RMT picket. Which is just anecdata, but I suppose certainly goes to show that Labour isn't a safe space for Jews who think the Labour Party should represent the interests of workers.
Anyway, was mostly coming on this thread to check if anyone had posted this fantastic bit from a "Keir Stamrer's most personal interview yet"?
‘You asked me questions I’ve never asked myself’: Keir Starmer’s most personal interview yet
There are 12 days to go until the general election and the Labour leader is closing in on power. But who exactly is the man hoping to run Britain?
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Oh, just done a bit of digging and found it was all covered earlier on the thread, here:
Sam Tarry fired for making up policy on the hoof, says Keir Starmer
The Labour leader insists he did not sack his transport spokesman for joining a union picket line.
www.bbc.co.uk
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
What do my words matter? I'm simply telling you what the article says.
Now you could make the claim that they aren't being honest here. Which is fine, but the article quoting the claim doesn't quote the claim
andysays
Love and solidarity
The quote from Starmer
“The Labour Party in opposition needs to be the Labour Party in power. And a government doesn’t go on picket lines.”
makes it pretty clear that, however much the spokesperson tries to deny it, going on the picket line was at least part of the reason he was sacked.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Your words matter because I'm trying to work out what you actually think. What do you think the reason for Sam Tarry's sacking was? I mean, if we're arguing about what the article says, I think there's a clue in the first sentence:
I suppose you could argue that correlation does not equal causation, but I think the headline and first sentence of that article are both strongly implying causation there.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I wasn't offering an opinion. It is possible starmer genuinely sacked tarry for picketing and is lying, or that he isn't. There;s no way to know for sure. All we can do is accurately report what was has been said and draw our own conclusions. But if we are going to be critical, then we need to be accurate about it
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
What do you think the reason Starmer sacked Sam Tarry is? What, in your own words, is the reason offered for the sacking of Tarry?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
There are many ways to be sure. The most obvious is you could email shammer and ask. Or tarry. It's a good thing you weren't offering an opinion as so few of the opinions you share are worth the pixels you express them in
The next line… “He will be more relaxed and expansive in our second interview a week later”On that note, just remembered that my dad (who fwiw is much more involved in "community life" than I am, the sort of person who's so madly observant that he doesn't just go to his own shul but also goes to other denomination's shuls when they need help making up the minyan) finally resigned from the Labour Party under Starmer's leadership in 2022. He had been assuming that, as a left-wing Jew, he'd get expelled sooner or later anyway, but the breaking point for him came when Sam Tarry got sacked as shadow transport minister for supporting a RMT picket. Which is just anecdata, but I suppose certainly goes to show that Labour isn't a safe space for Jews who think the Labour Party should represent the interests of workers.
Anyway, was mostly coming on this thread to check if anyone had posted this fantastic bit from a "Keir Stamrer's most personal interview yet"?
‘You asked me questions I’ve never asked myself’: Keir Starmer’s most personal interview yet
There are 12 days to go until the general election and the Labour leader is closing in on power. But who exactly is the man hoping to run Britain?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Once he has the key to the no 10 drinks cabinet
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
The thing that winds me up is that they are expressing an opinion, because any interpretation of a text is an opinion. In this particular instance, I think it's an opinion, and one that can be contested, that the sentence "Sam Tarry has been removed from his role as a shadow transport minister after the Labour MP joined members of the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers (RMT) on a rail strike picket line earlier today." is not suggesting a causual link between one of those facts and the other.
Yep, the second interview has some gems as well: "I say, because on his face was a genuine expression of bemusement when I asked about his emotional inner life, that I’m guessing he never did therapy. “No, no,” he says. “No.” Then “No” again in a lower tone bordering on horror."
I mean, I think therapy is over-rated in some ways, there's a lot to be said about who gets access to therapy and who doesn't, but "no, no, no" is definitely a pretty funny answer to that particular question.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
A decent and surprisingly critical look at the life of Keir Starmer.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
That's Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Sir Keir Rodney Starmer KCB KC, Son of a Toolmaker, Scourge of the Tories, Hammer of the Trots.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
But was he a toolmaker?On that note, just remembered that my dad (who fwiw is much more involved in "community life" than I am, the sort of person who's so madly observant that he doesn't just go to his own shul but also goes to other denomination's shuls when they need help making up the minyan) finally resigned from the Labour Party under Starmer's leadership in 2022. He had been assuming that, as a left-wing Jew, he'd get expelled sooner or later anyway, but the breaking point for him came when Sam Tarry got sacked as shadow transport minister for supporting a RMT picket. Which is just anecdata, but I suppose certainly goes to show that Labour isn't a safe space for Jews who think the Labour Party should represent the interests of workers.
Anyway, was mostly coming on this thread to check if anyone had posted this fantastic bit from a "Keir Stamrer's most personal interview yet"?
‘You asked me questions I’ve never asked myself’: Keir Starmer’s most personal interview yet
There are 12 days to go until the general election and the Labour leader is closing in on power. But who exactly is the man hoping to run Britain?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Really need to make a list of posters who would listen to an 80 minute podcast about Starmer.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Yesterday's observer had a puff piece about the Mates of Kier who, we're assured, are not just about the power game.
Their evidence for this was K's mate Colin, who apart from university has never lived less than 15 minutes away from him.
I'm sure there's a perfectly rational explanation for this one.
Their evidence for this was K's mate Colin, who apart from university has never lived less than 15 minutes away from him.
I'm sure there's a perfectly rational explanation for this one.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Colin who used to work at Procter and Gamble according to Starmer's biographer Tom Baldwin. Now Group Strategic Coordinatorfor ECR Retail Loss- 'Enabling the retail sector to sell more and lose less'
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yes, there is.
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Doctor Who's 73 Yards is here! But what exactly went down in that ending with Millie Gibson's Ruby and the woman in the distance?
www.radiotimes.com
tommers
Fuck it, it's fine.
Cringe.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Private sector to tackle housing crisis
JimW
支那暗杀团
The point about things being in your DNA is that they precede any subsequent life experiences such as training. Next witness.
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
That's veering close to running through a field of wheat!
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