Keir Starmer's time is up

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[teqniq]

They asked if a Corbyn government would nationalise sausages, but now the truth is out. In a Freudian slip today, Starmer revealed that he wants to get his hands on our sausages.

Have you got a link for that?

* gets coat *

 

[Elpenor]

Ed Milibacon can relate to the pork product ambush that Sir Keir Sausage suffered today

 

[PTK]

The Committee to Release All Meat Products has released a new song, recorded by Paul Weller and Tom Robinson.

Twenty-one years in a noisy fridge
In an old van parked under a bridge
Some of them pork and some of them beef
Desperately waiting for their relief
Are you so cruel you ignore their plight?
Can you not tell what is wrong from right?

Free, free, free all the sausages!
Free, free, free all the sausages!
Free, free, free all the sausages!
Free then now

 

[tommers]

I've watched that clip a few times now and it gets funnier and funnier. It's the way he tries to style it out. "Repeat the word you actually meant, don't say sorry or whoops, don't admit weakness Sir Kier, just say the thing you meant to say and nobody will notice." And yes, he definitely refers to himself in his head as Sir Kier.

 

[DaveCinzano]

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Maybe him and ex-PM Liz Truss are up to something together, her with her pork market obsession and Sir Keith with the sausages.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Maybe him and ex-PM Liz Truss are up to something together, her with her pork market obsession and Sir Keith with the sausages.

And Ed ‘stone’ Miliband…

 

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and Cameron.

 

[The39thStep]

And Ed ‘stone’ Miliband…


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Speaking of the Milliband family I came across an article written in the early 1960s by his father, Ralph, who actually had some insight into the Labour Party that is surprisingly familiar.

the second most noteworthy characteristic of Labour in this period, closely related to the first, was the incapacity, or rather the lack of will, of the leadership to shape and fight for a precise programme of a socialist character. In 1951, even before the government’s capitulation that year, it had become evident that its zeal for reform was exhausted, and it was increasingly hard to see any significant differences from the Conservative opposition, whether in domestic or foreign policy. Most of its energy was devoted to fighting not the Conservatives but those within its own ranks arguing for a different political line.

This was the situation that Hugh Gaitskell, who became party leader in 1955, set out to change. An earlier generation of Labour leaders could hardly have shown less enthusiasm for nationalization; and yet, for all their reluctance to propose invading the citadel of private capitalism, they felt incapable of maintaining that public ownership could be separated from the Party’s idea of socialism. But this is precisely what the ‘revisionists’ affirmed: not only that nationalization was electorally damaging but that it was irrelevant to Labour’s socialist goals. Naturally, there were cases in which the state might be constrained to take over the management of this or that firm, even an industry. But the sole criterion for should be a functional one, strictly economic and related to considerations of efficiency. This meant the acceptance on a permanent basis of a situation in which the ‘private sector’ would be overwhelmingly predominant, and collectivization would remain marginal, confined mostly to public services. The state would intervene in economic life but only in the form of ‘control’.

These views did not represent a major departure from Labour’s traditional economic philosophy. The ‘revisionists’ merely wanted to give programmatic status to what has been the objective of Labour’s leadership (as distinct from its activists) from the moment the Party was founded. Other ‘revisionist’ demands were scarcely newer: the insistence on Labour’s ‘classless’ character and aims, the active discouragement of trade-union militancy, flattery of middle-class voters, the general weakening of Labour’s political message—this had always been part of the party’s approach. But such demands acquired a new significance in the late 1950s, when the ‘affluence’ in which workers were supposedly wallowing was used to reinforce the need for a new image, appropriate to a ‘post-capitalist’ society of an increasingly petty-bourgeois character.

As for Labour foreign policy in the 1950s, the real battle was fought not between Labour and the Conservatives but within the Party, between left and right.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Speaking of the Milliband family I came across an article written in the early 1960s by his father, Ralph, who actually had some insight into the Labour Party that is surprisingly familiar.

No surprise: Miliband’s book ‘Parliamentary Socialism’ is an absolute classic

 

[Dystopiary]

First, little kids. Then the elderly. Now those pools of surplus population trapped in places where capital has plundered and then abandoned and where there is no work or only work of the soul destroying, low paid, better off on benefits kind.

Here we go.

Benefit claimants should have to look for jobs, says Keir Starmer

They said they were the party of business, that they'd be tougher than the Tories on benefit claimants, and that people wouldn't be able to live a life on benefits under their government.

So this latest is in line with what they've been saying for years. On that score they've actually been honest. But some people didn't want to hear it.

Following the speech, he was asked in an interview with the Today programme if he agreed with the proposition that virtually no-one should claim benefits without trying to get back to work.

"The basic proposition that you should look for work is right," he replied.

Even though in reality it's already been made difficult to claim benefits if you're not working. Even though, as you say, there often isn't work or the available work is soul-destroying and the pay shit. Even though thousands of people literally can't work because of illness or disability. More hoops to jump through, more (expensive) punitive bureaucracy, and inevitably more deaths.

The Office for Budget Responsibility says the cost of sickness and disability benefits will increase by £30bn in the next five years.

Deflection on to some of the most disadvantaged people in the country. Their being alive is apparently too expensive.

And some more migrant-bashing in there too:

Sir Keir said there was a backlog of tens of thousands of asylum seekers waiting to have their claim processed, while the government was paying for their accommodation.

Secretary of State for Health and Social Care - what a misnomer:

[Wes Streeting] said "the best of the NHS" would help "get sick Brits back to health and back to work".

The NHS? Surely nobody would believe this rubbish.

 

[stethoscope]

Stencil art in Hull (by Preg).

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Here we go.

Benefit claimants should have to look for jobs, says Keir Starmer

They said they were the party of business, that they'd be tougher than the Tories on benefit claimants, and that people wouldn't be able to live a life on benefits under their government.

So this latest is in line with what they've been saying for years. On that score they've actually been honest. But some people didn't want to hear it.



Even though in reality it's already been made difficult to claim benefits if you're not working. Even though, as you say, there often isn't work or the available work is soul-destroying and the pay shit. Even though thousands of people literally can't work because of illness or disability. More hoops to jump through, more (expensive) punitive bureaucracy, and inevitably more deaths.



Deflection on to some of the most disadvantaged people in the country. Their being alive is apparently too expensive.

And some more migrant-bashing in there too:



Secretary of State for Health and Social Care - what a misnomer:



The NHS? Surely nobody would believe this rubbish.

They have a joyless, spirit-crushing view of the world. We are units of production (or potential production) and nothing more. Moreover, work doesn't exist for us, we exist for work. It's the ultimate in life-denying alienation in the Marxist sense. They would chime perfectly with the deserving/undeserving poor rhetoric of Marx's time.

 

[GarveyLives]

This appears to be at odds with Changed Labour's offering of "mission-led" competent managerialism:

"Some prisoners were wrongly released from jail under the government’s new scheme to free up space due to a system error.

The Ministry of Justice confirmed 37 prisoners in jail for breaching restraining orders were mistakenly freed after their offences were logged under outdated legislation ..."

37 prisoners incorrectly freed from jail under government’s early release scheme

 

[The39thStep]

Forensic

 

[Elpenor]

The “any parent would have done the same” defence was predicted on here I think

Perhaps one of the posters here who works in politics passed it onto team Starmer

Of course most parents can’t do the same as they don’t have any wealthy friends or influence to sell. I don't imagine many of the 150k+ children in temporary accommodation have that opportunity for example

 

[Bingoman]

Wonder who leaked this?

Keir Starmer Covid broadcast urging work from home came from donor’s £18m penthouse

Labour leader appeared to be speaking from his own house but was instead in Lord Alli’s flat

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Sue]

Forensic

It's a judgement call, The39thStep. Jeez.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Forensic

Mask slipped a wee bit there.

He really is odious.

 

[pesh]

Perhaps one of the posters here who works in politics passed it onto team Starmer

Just glad that little cunt is keeping a lower profile atm

 

[ddraig]

The 50m (164ft) artwork was created by the campaign groups Greenpeace and Extinction Rebellion, who said the aim was to "send [Sir Keir] Starmer a message about the future of UK steel".

Nessa mural urges Keir Starmer to invest in green steel

Greenpeace and Extinction Rebellion say the Port Talbot beach mural was to "send Starmer a message".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ska invita]

Nessa mural urges Keir Starmer to invest in green steel

Greenpeace and Extinction Rebellion say the Port Talbot beach mural was to "send Starmer a message".

www.bbc.co.uk

the impotence is overwhelming

Unions win non-binding vote on winter fuel payment cuts

Keir Starmer defended the move in his conference speech on Tuesday, but Unite boss says it is "wrong".

www.bbc.co.uk

sorry but we're so fucked with our nonbinding victories and projections and memes and murals

 

[Wilf]

As well as the hideous politics this embodies, getting free clothes alongside massive foodbank use and the rest, it's the fucking stupidity of them. As they banged on time and time again about Tory sleaze, as 2 years of polls told them they were about to get in, they just carried on taking freebies, designer clothing and the like???? I thought this was supposed to be a spin and image obsessed political world.

But fucking hell, literally doing the very thing you are accusing your opponents of. And doing it in ways that are bound to irritate people the most - clothes, football tickets. Doing this as you plan cutting the winter fuel allowance and to leave the 2 child benefit cap in place. It's pretty much Mary Whitehouse banging on about moral decline while having a live orgy on national TV.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Clueless evil. I think they've misunderstood their alignment.

 

[Wilf]

I've not seen any telly the last couple of days, so I've only just seen starmer justifying this shit. He's pretty much a charmless version of boris johnson over having his lifestyle funded by mega rich donors. Not one hint of remorse or empathy for people living shit lives, but utterly wooden in his self defence. But you also get a sense of his true attitude towards things like the child benefit cap - it's not about the financial mess, he just doesn't give a fuck about kids going under. That's the starting point for all this, dreadful PR certainly, but underpinned by a deeply vile human being.

 

[ska invita]

literally doing the very thing you are accusing your opponents of

literally everything Starmer's Labour does, from personal practice to policy

 

[Wilf]

literally everything Starmer's Labour does, from personal practice to policy

A couple of times I've heard him tell about how affected he was by people (apparently) looking down their noses at his dad as a toolmaker. Now if you are growing up in a working class area, nobody looks down on you for being a toolmaker, quite the opposite. I suspect that was always some version of his university /lawyer mates (apparently) looking down on his family's background - something he internalised, him feeling embarrassed. Well, he's worked his way through that hasn't he? Neatly slotted into the lives of the rich and famous, people who have so much money they get other people to pay for them - and then feel resentful when it's brought up. The fucking parasite.

 

[PTK]

A couple of times I've heard him tell about how affected he was by people (apparently) looking down their noses at his dad as a toolmaker. Now if you are growing up in a working class area, nobody looks down on you for being a toolmaker, quite the opposite. I suspect that was always some version of his university /lawyer mates (apparently) looking down on his family's background - something he internalised, him feeling embarrassed. Well, he's worked his way through that hasn't he? Neatly slotted into the lives of the rich and famous, people who have so much money they get other people to pay for them - and then feel resentful when it's brought up. The fucking parasite.

Or his Dad trying to fit into the golf club set in a very middle class area.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

A couple of times I've heard him tell about how affected he was by people (apparently) looking down their noses at his dad as a toolmaker. Now if you are growing up in a working class area, nobody looks down on you for being a toolmaker, quite the opposite. I suspect that was always some version of his university /lawyer mates (apparently) looking down on his family's background - something he internalised, him feeling embarrassed. Well, he's worked his way through that hasn't he? Neatly slotted into the lives of the rich and famous, people who have so much money they get other people to pay for them - and then feel resentful when it's brought up. The fucking parasite.

That bit actually makes some sense. He went to a direct grant grammar school, so a private school that also acted as the area's state grammar school. They were abolished in the late 70s, but they were snobbish schools with rich kids whose parents paid fees alongside scholarship kids like Starmer.

I wouldn't overstate it, though. He would have been far from the only kid at his school from his background. More likely is that he was envious of the rich kids and deep down wanted to be one of them.

ETA: The psychoanalysis is pointless, though. He's a cunt. Who gives a shit what made him that way.