Keir Starmer's time is up

[two sheds]

How long does it take to stop a flight?

 

[Plumdaff]

They're going to win big on a low turnout which the Labour Right will see as evidence of their tactical genius but in reality it'll be bec Tories voters are even less enthusiastic about their party than Labour voters.

 

[hitmouse]

The feeling though is way different. People -- rightly or wrongly -- felt things could and would change and be different. There was a sense of optimism. I don't think anyone would claim there's any optimism at all right now.

Oh, I wasn't saying anything either way about the 97 manifesto, maybe I should've put "the 2023 Labour Manifesto" or something to make it clearer, I was just making a daft alpaca joke.

 

[Serge Forward]

If Labour win the next election, will Starmer et al be dancing along to D.Ream singing Things Can Only Get Not Much Better?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

or 'fade to grey'?

 

[PR1Berske]

It sounded better in my head than written down but "I Don't Know What You Want but I Can't Give It Any More" by the Pet Shop Boys seemed appropriate.

 

[Nine Bob Note]

If Labour win the next election, will Starmer et al be dancing along to D.Ream singing Things Can Only Get Not Much Better?

I'm gonna nominate Shakin Stevens and This Ole House

 

[Elpenor]

“Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”

 

[Cerv]

Del Amitri - Nothing Ever Happens


And nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all
The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before
And we'll all be lonely tonight and lonely tomorrow

 

[mojo pixy]

Super Furry Animals, The Man Don't Give a Fuck

 

[The39thStep]

Four Tops- Its the Same Old Song

 

[Serge Forward]

Nowhere Man by the Beatles.

 

[splonkydoo]

Alternative Tories by SLF

 

[Larry O'Hara]

If Labour win the next election, will Starmer et al be dancing along to D.Ream singing Things Can Only Get Not Much Better?

Its the Tories who will be dancing: because Starmpot has accepted their spending plans, thus Labour will be blamed for further massive cuts. Then theycan return the election after next blaming Labour for crashing the economy

 

[splonkydoo]

Might be a step too far for the Shammerites...

‘Rightwing, illiberal’: Labour MP Jon Cruddas condemns Keir Starmer’s ‘witch-hunt’

MP says moves to discipline Neal Lawson, who heads pressure group Compass, are a ‘disgrace’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Gramsci]

Might be a step too far for the Shammerites...

‘Rightwing, illiberal’: Labour MP Jon Cruddas condemns Keir Starmer’s ‘witch-hunt’

MP says moves to discipline Neal Lawson, who heads pressure group Compass, are a ‘disgrace’

www.theguardian.com

Read that. Now it's a witch hunt. Saying this about the purge of Corbyn supporters previously could lead to accusations of being a border line conspiracy loon

I'm not so sure it is a step to far.

My local borough, Lambeth, has been run by the New Labour right of party for years. So is mini example of how Starmer would run country if he wins

Despite unpopular polices like estate regeneration and getting rid of my popular Cllr (pre Corbyn) they rely on fact that their is no where else to go for voters.

They also keep the liberal middle classes on side .Those who own their home and have old flat on buy to let mortgage.

Nothing Starmer has done surprises me that much as Ive seen New Labour in action in Lambeth.

The control freakery is part and parcel of this politics.

So point is here it works. They stay in power.

Dropping rent controls make sense if you want to keep middle class buy to let on board. Who see themselves as socially liberal. Unless their "investment" is under threat

Or you could be right. Mainstream media has ignored the witch hunt against left of party. Now same tactic are being used against soft left suddenly it's not cricket

 

[Lurdan]

hashtags: #notanaaronbastanifanbut #notalllabourcouncillors

Twitter link (for those with twitter accounts who haven't used up their daily ration of tweet views)

Link to mylondonnews story

Spoiler: Text of the tweet

Aaron Bastani @AaronBastani • 8h
How on Earth was someone arrested for having indecent images of children allowed to stand as a councillor a month later?
Really exposes how Labour’s ‘vetting’ process works, and who it’s meant to target.

[Image of Ex-Hackney councillor Tom Dewey]

Link to mylondon.news story:-
Ex-Hackney councillor charged over indecent images of children
Tom Dewey was arrested a month before he was elected

In the interests of fairness I should stress that not all Labour councillors are nonces. They are, however, all Labour councillors.

 

[andysays]

In the apparent absence of a dedicated Jess Phillips thread, this might as well go here

Jess Phillips is not racist, Labour's Bridget Phillipson says after online row​

Labour MP Jess Phillips is not racist, shadow education secretary Bridget Phillipson has said, following a social media row involving Ms Phillips and a prominent headteacher. Katharine Birbalsingh - from the Michaela Community School - has accused Ms Phillips of racism and bullying. On Sunday, Ms Phillipson said Ms Birbalsingh should raise any concerns through a formal parliamentary process. Ms Birbalsingh had already written to Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer.

 

[Serge Forward]

To be fair on Phillips (not that I want to) that Birbalsingh is a rabid nefarious far right loon.

 

[domestos]

They're going to win big on a low turnout which the Labour Right will see as evidence of their tactical genius but in reality it'll be bec Tories voters are even less enthusiastic about their party than Labour voters.

Worked for Johnson, 1.2% more votes than fields of hay Theresa May, got him a huge majority which he has crowed on about ever since. Birbalsing used to be a local but I guess the politics here weren't to her liking and she fled to N London

 

[gosub]

“Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”

Thing is I can totally see Antony B Liar picking up an acoustic guitar whilst in Downing Street and playing that

 

[Artaxerxes]

In the apparent absence of a dedicated Jess Phillips thread, this might as well go here

Jess Phillips is not racist, Labour's Bridget Phillipson says after online row​

Jess tweeted several years ago “your no Aslan” about tory leadership candidates


Headteacher and wannabe conservative politician Birbalsingh appears to have thought she said “Your No Asian”

 

[two sheds]

From the Guardian story Phillips never mentioned race:

The teacher said it had happened after she inadvertently tweeted a picture of Tina Turner alongside her abusive former husband Ike Turner amid tributes to the late star.

Phillips then tweeted: “Hold the line!” and added: “Stay with me! Domestic abuse is never ok and we will defeat those who prop up the status quo …”

None of her subsequent tweets referred to Birbalsingh’s race.

...

“My view is that Ms Phillips’ extreme and unprompted hostility towards me is motivated by my race. By this I do not mean that she hates all people of colour.

“Her behaviour is a clear example of ‘unconscious bias’. I mean that she hates me, despite not knowing me, because she subscribes to the idea that Black and Asian individuals in public life owe a duty to voice opinions that match with a leftwing view of the world, or they are worthy of her contempt."

Birbalsingh, who recently spoke at the National Conservatism conference in London, said she was a “floating voter” and was not a member of the Conservative party.

However, she said her decision to attend the rightwing event helped explain Phillips’s approach to her.
"

Doesn't say what the subsequent statements were but looks more like Phillips had a go because Birbalsingh's a right wing loon, which is clearly a protected characteristic. Even that's not obvious though from the initial tweet.

 

[redsquirrel]

To be fair on Phillips (not that I want to) that Birbalsingh is a rabid nefarious far right loon.

Yeah, Phillips is scum but her comments here were not racist (unlike her support for Labour's immigration policies) and Birbalsingh is super scum

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Even The Guardian is coming round to the idea that Starmer is warmed up shite.

The Guardian view on Labour’s crackdown on free thinkers: it’s bad for the party and politics | Editorial

Editorial: The move against Neal Lawson illuminates a wider strategy to march Labour ever rightwards under the cover of big poll leads

www.theguardian.com

 

[Gramsci]

Even The Guardian is coming round to the idea that Starmer is warmed up shite.

The Guardian view on Labour’s crackdown on free thinkers: it’s bad for the party and politics | Editorial

Editorial: The move against Neal Lawson illuminates a wider strategy to march Labour ever rightwards under the cover of big poll leads

www.theguardian.com

Guardian says Neal Lawson is no left winger.

Thing is when I read what he says he is. Its just the way he pushes it is that if only the great British public had PR then their intrinsic values of redistribution of wealth and power would come to the fore.

For a member of the New Labour lot he's anathema.

Even though, nice guy that he is , he probably thinks they could be won over by a nice chat.

I'm not having a go at Lawson and I think what he's been doing over the years re pluralism on the left has a lot to say. But he is naive
to have thought that the right of the party have any truck with what he is saying.

For them now they have expelled Corbynites / Trots they regard the likes of Neal Lawson as an ideological enemy to their way of thinking. Next of their list. Pluralism to build a progressive coalition to redistribute wealth and power? No thanks is their view. Last thing they want.

 

[redsquirrel]

In every postwar election except 2015, more voters supported centre-left parties than centre-right ones, but Britain’s first-past-the-post electoral system brings mostly Tory governments.

Usual Guardian dishonesty, the Economist article they link to in that sentence states

In every post-war election bar 2015, more voters supported progressive parties (Labour, the Liberal Democrats, the snp and the Greens) than conservative ones (the Conservative Party and its cousins on the radical right)

So they are pulling their usual shit and casting the LibDems as left.

 

[tommers]

"Lisa Nandy, the shadow communities secretary, said during the debate: “We recognise the problem the he says this bill is needed to tackle. It is therefore deeply frustrating that the government has introduced a bill that is so needlessly broad, with such sweeping draconian powers … that he is faced with genuine legitimate heartfelt opposition from his own benches.”"

If you felt that it was so bad that even some Tories voted against it, then why the fuck did you abstain?

 

[teqniq]

They are not impressed with him:

 

[Dystopiary]

Starmer tweeted this this morning:

Britain’s class ceiling is holding people back and stifling their potential.

That’s why it’s my mission to shatter it.

...under which he's linked to an article he's written in the fucking Sun. Headline: "Working people feel the game is rigged against them - I'll turn this around."

How can anyone trust this slippery, two-faced bastard? I can imagine him thinking "Oh I know which newspaper those common people will read in which I can tell them what they want to hear!"

He totally supports the system that shits on the people he's pretending to care about. Watch what happens if Labour get in - they're all about trying to out-Tory the Tories. Fuck them.