Very generous of Harris to tactfully avoid explaining what 'progressive ends' the Labour Party is aiming for.
Cold, cynical and paranoid: if this is Labour in opposition, what will it look like in power? | John Harris
Keir Starmer’s party is pushing the idea that you can pursue progressive ends through nasty means to its limit, says Guardian columnist John Harriswww.theguardian.com
No shit.
Keir Starmer's time is up
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hitmouse
entreprenulsoip critical thinking
Well, he's certainly winning approval in some quarters:
www.thetimes.co.uk
(paywall-busted version here, if you really want to read the wretched thing)
Only Keir Starmer can save the Johnson legacy
Patrick Maguire: At the next election, the manifesto closest to the 2016 Leave campaign and 2019 Conservative offer will be Labour’s
www.thetimes.co.uk
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Not wrong is he tbh. Chasing after the winning formula from the previous election is always a big part of the centrists' brilliant strategising.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
And for saying that all factions in the past are as bad as each other. Peak centrism
teqniq
DisMembered
Incoming neoliberal clone:
morningstaronline.co.uk
‘Starmer-backed neoliberal’ replaces Uxbridge CLP's preferred candidate
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Humberto
anthropocene participant
Starmer is a very shadowy individual. Extrapolate that thirst to control every facet of the Labour party, the compliance and partnership with the ruling class and their media organs, and you have someone serving themselves from behind a veil. And almost certainly an opaque lack of accountability. I think he is bad for the Labour Party (putting them more firmly on the wrong side) and will be bad for the country. The way he ostracised the Newcastle Mayor speaks volumes of his lack of a moral compass and of his emptiness.
It's honestly not a hard beat at this stage. So to throw it all up, sell people out in his party so readily, and more to the point us the electorate, is a dead end and short-sighted.
They are literally no use to us. And are expediating their demise by this betrayal. By this courting of anti-working class and anti-labour interests. He is just a jobsworth clinging to and barking at the behest of the ruling class.
He won't help the economy, he will facilitate it's embezzlement and carrying away into dank, dingy corridors. Nobody will be better off.
It's honestly not a hard beat at this stage. So to throw it all up, sell people out in his party so readily, and more to the point us the electorate, is a dead end and short-sighted.
They are literally no use to us. And are expediating their demise by this betrayal. By this courting of anti-working class and anti-labour interests. He is just a jobsworth clinging to and barking at the behest of the ruling class.
He won't help the economy, he will facilitate it's embezzlement and carrying away into dank, dingy corridors. Nobody will be better off.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Talking of which, I never used to like Hattenstone's style of interviewing, but over the years I've warmed to it. This today on Streeting is pretty good:It'll be streeting next, stick a tenner on it
gosub
~#
Shame. Though the Dead ringers yes no game was spot on yesterday
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
they've done a lot of work pruning the comments on that nonsense
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
"Jeremy Corbyn's wife Laura Alvarez in group aiming to unseat Sir Keir Starmer at next election"
news.sky.com
Jeremy Corbyn's wife Laura Alvarez in group aiming to unseat Sir Keir Starmer at next election
Laura Alvarez is part of the Organise Corbyn Inspired Socialist Alliance group on Facebook, which has discussed standing MPs against the Labour Party following the ban on her husband standing for the opposition.
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tony.c
Well-Known Member
Barney Crockett, former Aberdeen Council Leader and senior Scottish Labour figure quits over Starmer's oil and gas plans saying he is worse than Thatcher.
www.uk.yahoo.com
Starmer 'more brutal' than Thatcher says furious Labour councillor as he quits party
ONE of Scottish Labour’s most senior figures in the North East has quit the party over Sir Keir Starmer’s plan to ban new oil and gas exploration.
ska invita
back on the other side
tbf this plan of Starmers is a good one IF accompanied by the creation of a shitload of green jobs in Scotland during the long transition period - which was going to be the plan, but how much of a row back happens remains to be seenBarney Crockett, former Aberdeen Council Leader and senior Scottish Labour figure quits over Starmer's oil and gas plans saying he is worse than Thatcher.
Starmer 'more brutal' than Thatcher says furious Labour councillor as he quits party
ONE of Scottish Labour’s most senior figures in the North East has quit the party over Sir Keir Starmer’s plan to ban new oil and gas exploration.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
It can't really be a 'long' transition period, this is becoming ever-more evident, although clearly not within the political class. In terms of green jobs though, it's pretty clear what many of these are going to be and where they are going to be located - much like earlier industrial transitions geography is pretty important - you can't just create a CCS cluster in, say, Leicestershire - many of these jobs depend on locations of existing industry and particular geographic features. So Scotland is massively well placed for these future industries and will likely benefit regardless of government action - but government intervention can both speed things up and potentially favour some of these locations over others (as already seems to be happening - funding has been allocated to some areas and not others in terms of hydrogen and CCS, and IIRC Scotland has missed out on the first round)
ska invita
back on the other side
Do you mean it Can't because of the urgency of climate change? That's an opinion (one I share), but Labours No New Oil policy leaves existing fields active for many years yet...I forget what I read now but it was at least 20 iirc... Possibly more
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Yep - of course stopping new development is the absolutely essential first step, but really there has to be more thought put into how a declining industry is to be carefully managed out of existence. I'd have to check the Committee on Climate Change projections but I don't think anything other than a miniscule rump oil industry is likely compatible with net zero, so that's 26 years left maximum, which isn't really that long in the scheme of things.
ruffneck23
front left
'Not another pledge broken?' I hear you say...
ska invita
back on the other side
Useful list ... I think a massive round up of everything Starmer has done would be a good resource, for prosterity if nothing else
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Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Keir Starmer was caught as a student illegally selling ice-creams on French Riviera
Friend of Labour leader says pair had brush with French police after travelling to the Med as students
Cringingly awful attempt to humanise this twat.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Keir Starmer was caught as a student illegally selling ice-creams on French Riviera
Friend of Labour leader says pair had brush with French police after travelling to the Med as students
Cringingly awful attempt to humanise this twat.
And the cunt can't even beat Theresa May on the naughty front.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
but once again he comes across as a twatKeir Starmer was caught as a student illegally selling ice-creams on French Riviera
Friend of Labour leader says pair had brush with French police after travelling to the Med as students
Cringingly awful attempt to humanise this twat.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Shame it was on the ground.
tony.c
Well-Known Member
There's never a seagull around when you need one. (farmerbarleymow)
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