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Keir Starmer's time is up

Yes this put it quite nicely, too.

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One problem seems to be that all Starmer can offer is a year's freeze in council tax, which will make fuck all real difference.
 
NoXion said:
Apparently Starmer and his coterie of spineless yes-men think that publicly wanking off about being "tough on crime" is a vote-winner. Where the fuck are they getting these idiotic ideas? It's as if they think that the dogshit tabloids are the voice of the people.
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Starmer and his big brain advisors have forensically looked at the data and come up with a brilliant plan: the best way of winning the next general election is to get Tories to vote for Labour. And how will they get Tories to vote for Labour? By acting like Tories. They don't have any principles beyond winning the next election, so it's not like they're going against their principles. And where are Labour voters going to go? So fuck 'em. The more pissed off the left is the more Tories are likely to feel able to vote Labour.

We're doomed.
 
Spandex said:
Starmer and his big brain advisors have forensically looked at the data and come up with a brilliant plan: the best way of winning the next general election is to get Tories to vote for Labour. And how will they get Tories to vote for Labour? By acting like Tories. They don't have any principles beyond winning the next election, so it's not like they're going against their principles. And where are Labour voters going to go? So fuck 'em. The more pissed off the left is the more Tories are likely to feel able to vote Labour.

We're doomed.
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So what do you make of the Actually Connecting With (the Tory voting part of) the Working Class case?

Smokeandsteam said:
Interesting piece by Starmers ex Head of Policy:

thehill.com

Why Britain is watching Biden’s ‘blue-collar blueprint’

Looking across the Atlantic provides some painful lessons in what happens when center-left parties overlook their working-class base.
thehill.com thehill.com

The key section is “The emphasis on blue-collar economics is a necessary shift for the center-left. But it needs to be matched with an orientation to blue-collar society and representation to move the dial with working-class voters. Voters care about better jobs, better wages, more opportunities and lower costs — of course they do. But they also want lower crime, managed immigration and access to better health care.”

Notable is the admission is that a return to pro- working class economics is necessary. As the article notes Starmer has built a lead with working class voters, but I’d argue it’s neither a convincing or secure one
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Spandex said:
Starmer and his big brain advisors have forensically looked at the data and come up with a brilliant plan: the best way of winning the next general election is to get Tories to vote for Labour. And how will they get Tories to vote for Labour? By acting like Tories. They don't have any principles beyond winning the next election, so it's not like they're going against their principles. And where are Labour voters going to go? So fuck 'em. The more pissed off the left is the more Tories are likely to feel able to vote Labour.

We're doomed.
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If they were acting like tories they'd have elected an opportunist liar as their leader.

Oh :(
 
ska invita said:
So what do you make of the Actually Connecting With (the Tory voting part of) the Working Class case?
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Starmer needs better understanding of "(the Tory voting part of) the Working Class" and more nuance in his messaging for this to work. And, most importantly, workable policies that address their concerns with money to pay for it.

It's a call to return to one of the key building blocks of Blairism. Put crudely, Blair's electoral success was built on holding together the socially conservative/economically interventionist Working Class voters and the socially liberal City voters. His slogan Tough on Crime, Tough on the Causes of Crime is a perfect example of messaging aimed at this. And behind that was a carrot and stick approach: ASBOs and funding for the police as well as funding for a network of charities that supported people who were having problems. This added up to a visible impact - less people having their personal life crisis on the streets and an associated drop in minor crime/anti-social behaviour, less visible homeless, less visible hard drug use, support available to people to help them sort their lives out.

That was all washed away by the financial crisis and the austerity approach to dealing with it. Working class areas, all areas, have seen police un-able to respond to minor crime and anti-social behaviour, and all the support that helped reduce it has been cut.

Starmer and his current bunch of advisors don't seem to have quite got this. They appear to see a "Tory voting" working class and look to Tory solutions to attract their votes. People smoking weed in the street isn't the big concern, freezing council tax isn't the solution.
 
Ah joy of joys, Labour's now merrily doing the "migrants = terrorists" thing in an effort to paint the Tories as being too soft on the subject.

We don’t think that this illegal migration bill is going to resolve the problems, although we have put down amendments around those who have come to the UK via the right routes, and the channel crossings and terrorist suspects. We believe there should be a duty upon the home secretary to find those terror suspects and deport them immediately.
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