Keir Starmer's time is up

[Kevbad the Bad]

What you need to do Kev is go on Twitter with all your mates and tell that Mrs Berger in no uncertain terms how cross you are with these antisemitism claims and how it was all a scam. That’ll put this horrible business to bed

I'm on urban instead. She can come on here and talk to me if she wants to.

 

[hitmouse]

Bleeding heck. All I was saying is that fairness is in short supply in the Labour Party right now, and has been since long before Corbyn's demise.

I'm not disputing that! All I'm saying is that we're in a sorry state if we can't hold ourselves to higher ethical standards than the bleedin' Labour Party.

When Labour's right start claiming that it was normal in Labour circles to praise Hitler you just know they are making it up.

Who's been saying that, btw?

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

I'm not disputing that! All I'm saying is that we're in a sorry state if we can't hold ourselves to higher ethical standards than the bleedin' Labour Party.

Just what ethical standards am I lowering myself to? Just out of interest.

Who's been saying that, btw?

Can't remember offhand, but there was some of that back in the day, including on one of those BBC documentaries.

 

[hitmouse]

Just what ethical standards am I lowering myself to? Just out of interest.

Well, there's this for a start:

Can't remember offhand, but there was some of that back in the day, including on one of those BBC documentaries.

If some Labour right dick started claiming that people on the Labour left had been saying something outrageous and terrible, and then you asked who exactly had said this thing, and they said "Can't remember offhand, but there was some of that back in the day", you'd be pretty unimpressed, right?

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Well, there's this for a start:

If some Labour right dick started claiming that people on the Labour left had been saying something outrageous and terrible, and then you asked who exactly had said this thing, and they said "Can't remember offhand, but there was some of that back in the day", you'd be pretty unimpressed, right?

Well I was in the middle of cooking at the time.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

This contribution isn't so much aimed at KevTheBad (who seems to think I am Luciana Berger: or maybe Keir Starmer?,or at the very least an apologist for such). However others may actually be interested in this short article I have in the next (March) Labour Briefing on Corbyn & the Spooks. As with here (while I understand why most posters do otherwise) this article is in my own name. It does mention, a number of times, the anti-semitism in Labour 'issue', though not in a way Ms Berger would approve.....

 

[TopCat]

Well, there's this for a start:

If some Labour right dick started claiming that people on the Labour left had been saying something outrageous and terrible, and then you asked who exactly had said this thing, and they said "Can't remember offhand, but there was some of that back in the day", you'd be pretty unimpressed, right?

It as reported in the panarama

 

[teqniq]

What a shitshow this is:



also from a link in the replies:

Labour party members quit roles saying ‘London clique’ selecting MP candidate

Leading members in Bolton North East said 'it appears that the Labour Party is seeking to promote the views and attitudes of a clique in London, rather than local members in the north'

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[Puddy_Tat]

What a shitshow this is:

now the full executive committee have resigned

 

[teqniq]

now the full executive committee have resigned

 

[Puddy_Tat]

has aged well

 

[Pickman's model]

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has aged well

He really is a shitty wanker

 

[Pickman's model]

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Yeh but I think in a subsequent tweet he added the rider, except when it's inconvenient for the leadership

 

[The39thStep]

 

[Pickman's model]

Is that agitator amateur or professional?

 

[PR1Berske]

Don't know if this is the right place to put this; a CLP unhappy at a selection process:

 

[SpookyFrank]

Don't know if this is the right place to put this; a CLP unhappy at a selection process:

Happened in a few places now.

Starmer knows he can't win an argument with his watered-down right-centrism and he can't win hearts and minds either. The only move he's got is loading the dice to make sure there's no alternative.

 

[Whagwan]

One of the candidates that has been parachuted in for Broxtowe is a shoe-in for the right, having been an senior employee of the Tony Blair Institute.

 

[brogdale]

I'm waiting for the Sue Gray report before I comment any further....

 

[steveseagull]

This should see a few more trots head for the exit.

Have you just escaped for a 1980's student's union? Why are you people still intent on fighting battles you won years ago?

 

[Fuzzy]

offering sue gray a job hey. her offer of a job by starmer certainly seems to have triggered the tories so not all bad then. whether she'll take it up remains to be seen.

 

[strung out]

offering sue gray a job hey. her offer of a job by starmer certainly seems to have triggered the tories so not all bad then. whether she'll take it up remains to be seen.

She's just handed her notice in, so I think we can guess that she's accepted.

 

[Elpenor]

Grey man hired Gray woman

 

[teqniq]

offering sue gray a job hey. her offer of a job by starmer certainly seems to have triggered the tories so not all bad then. whether she'll take it up remains to be seen.

The Fail is having a field day with this. It's kinda darkly amusing and would be more so save for the fact that some of their readers will actually believe this shit:



Also at this point it's difficult for me to get exercised over how much of a hachet job they do on Starmer.

 

[brogdale]

The Fail is having a field day with this. It's kinda darkly amusing and would be more so save for the fact that some of their readers will actually believe this shit:

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Also at this point it's difficult for me to get exercised over how much of a hachet job they do on Starmer/

No dog in the fight, as it were, but to me this looks like the LP has played a blinder; propelling Johnson and "Partygate" back up the news agenda and reminding folk of how angry they were looks like it has the potential to sink the vermin's poll numbers even lower.

 

[andysays]

The Fail is having a field day with this. It's kinda darkly amusing and would be more so save for the fact that some of their readers will actually believe this shit:

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Also at this point it's difficult for me to get exercised over how much of a hachet job they do on Starmer.

How on earth is this proof of anything?

Who actually appointed Gray to head the investigation? I'm pretty sure it was Starmer.

I know bollocks because it's in the Mail, but it makes absolutely no sense, even for the Mail...

 

[Sue]

How on earth is this proof of anything?

Who actually appointed Gray to head the investigation? I'm pretty sure it was Starmer.

I know bollocks because it's in the Mail, but it makes absolutely no sense, even for the Mail...

And let's not forget that the parties actually took place and weren't some figment of Gray's imagination. Bizarre really but the DM.

 

[andysays]

And let's not forget that the parties actually took place and weren't some figment of Gray's imagination. Bizarre really but the DM.

Almost looks like paranoia, TBH

 

[teqniq]

GB news having a proper flounce about this, and i think your're right brogdale it just serves to remind everyone of what an arsehole Johnson is.

 

[Dogsauce]

GB news having a proper flounce about this, and i think your're right brogdale it just serves to remind everyone of what an arsehole Johnson is.

Is them saying stuff like that actionable? The claim of her being a ‘secret agent’?