It's a right load of old bollocks is what it is. HTH.
Keir Starmer's time is up
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ruffneck23
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
hitmouse
entreprenulsoip critical thinking
I suppose you could say that the GMB and Unite are... organising to win?
ska invita
back on the other side
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
You just have no idea what a Scrum Master does do you?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
They're on about their seventh rebrand/relaunch since Starmer took over. And at no point in any of this soul-searching did anyone pitch the idea of 'talking like human beings'.
The 'prototyping' stuff is C&P'ed straight from generic business consultancy drivel, without anyone noticing that a political party is not actually supposed to design and sell vacuum cleaners or ready meals.
Puddy_Tat
happy mew year
but they do seem to be good at designing and (trying to) sell a vacuum...
8ball
Testicle Menace
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Cold War Steve is doing his pictures in real life now.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I quite like the bit about it 'making it easy for voters to understand who we are and what we stand for'. Oh my.
I've always been aware that moderate sized organisations of the centre left (lol), such as parties and charities, operate with the same kind of managerial tools* and language as the rest of capital. But there's something stark seeing it set out, particularly if you haven't been keeping an eye on how Labour's organisation evolved over the years, say from the Campbell era onwards. There's almost a sense of madness, where processes and power structures have been so reshaped that it's impossible to insert any other kind of values or outcomes. Of course that's the point of it, it gives power to those who deploy this voodoo. But it's also a truly shit way of doing politics. The whole thing is transacted in words of madness, making it near impossible that the outcome will be political messages and conversations that speak to voters and their actual human concerns.
* Pun potential.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
A viable alternative orthodox model would be guided community activism. Key national messages from the centre with bespoke messaging on local issues aided by a marketing and comms team at the centre. Local teams empowered with good data and market segmentation . Development of membership with training and coaching etc etc .I quite like the bit about it 'making it easy for voters to understand who we are and what we stand for'. Oh my.
I've always been aware that moderate sized organisations of the centre left (lol), such as parties and charities, operate with the same kind of managerial tools* and language as the rest of capital. But there's something stark seeing it set out, particularly if you haven't been keeping an eye on how Labour's organisation evolved over the years, say from the Campbell era onwards. There's almost a sense of madness, where processes and power structures have been so reshaped that it's impossible to insert any other kind of values or outcomes. Of course that's the point of it, it gives power to those who deploy this voodoo. But it's also a truly shit way of doing politics. The whole thing is transacted in words of madness, making it near impossible that the outcome will be political messages and conversations that speak to voters and their actual human concerns.
* Pun potential.
The current set of proposals are essentially for an organisation without a participatory membership based on restructuring the central office at a time of financial pressure . Even without any politics it’s stale and timid .
hitmouse
entreprenulsoip critical thinking
One piece of good news for Starmer though, I was going to say that alpaca seems to be on the verge of beating him in court, but apparently the alpaca's time is up.
No fan of Starmer, nor his tedious droning blather at the despatch box yesterday, but hearing the Tories yelling "sit down" was pretty sickening. If entirely typical
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
It did feel a bit like a 60s science fiction film where they enter a city and find the computers are still running some mad routine, but the population died off thousands of years ago.
hitmouse
entreprenulsoip critical thinking
Do you know the Lee Healey/Barney Farmer cartoon with the Britpop-mad dad who insists on DJing his daughter's wedding and ruins the reception by just constantly playing Oasis?
Funny in its own right, but one could also see the character who blindly refuses to accept that it's no longer the mid-1990s as being somehow an allegory for something or other.
Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
Have we had Keefs new slogan yet? ' Win the future'
Said it in the Guardian and now tweeting.
Has no one pointed out the acronym to him
Said it in the Guardian and now tweeting.
Has no one pointed out the acronym to him
Have we had Keefs new slogan yet? ' Win the future'
Said it in the Guardian and now tweeting.
Has no one pointed out the acronym to him
"You shall be king"
andysays
Love and solidarity
Have we had Keefs new slogan yet? ' Win the future'
Said it in the Guardian and now tweeting.
Has no one pointed out the acronym to him
Quite apart from the acronym, is that photo of Starmer with three older (and all white) women really the best illustration of what winning the future looks like?
Those three ladies certainly don't look like the future :O
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
Keith Stalin
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
tbh it's more starmerella will go to the ball.
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