Keir Starmer's time is up

[hitmouse]

am interested if those who follow the antisemitism stuff closely (like killer b , hitmouse perhaps?) see any justification in the Loach expulsion?

Will have to look into it a bit more, I didn't know it'd happened until now. For all I know he might've been kicked out for saying the alpaca deserves to live.

 

[Pickman's model]

Will have to look into it a bit more, I didn't know it'd happened until now. For all I know he might've been kicked out for saying the alpaca deserves to live.

That's the sort of llama reason I'd expect from labour

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Has anyone been calling for this kind of action? Like, 'I'm a long time party member but Ken Loach is beyond the pale and I won't vote Labour again while he's still a member'? And if so, in significant numbers?

I can't understand why the Labour Party continues to destroy itself like this.

I know some people - as above - make the point it's a choice between Boris or Blairites, like there's no contest, people will have to hold their noses and vote Labour. But the problem is that it's not a binary choice. There are other parties. Scotland is lost to Labour, there are other parties to vote for and which have a chance of winning seats, albeit not a majority. But the other option is to not vote at all. Because people don't feel there's anyone or any party worth voting for.

Surely it's about making the case for left-wing/progressive politics rather than giving up and trying to steal Tory voters?

 

[hitmouse]

Had a look at the Guardian article on Loach, and they just quote a Labour spokesperson as saying “We are not going to comment on individual cases. As previously reported, the NEC took the decision to proscribe a number of organisations at its last meeting.” I'm not really familiar enough with every statement Loach has ever made to say that he's definitely never done anything wrong, but that Labour statement doesn't really give a convincing case for why he needed to be expelled either. The case made against Loach in this (Feb 2021) JC article looks pretty fucking flimsy too.

 

[killer b]

am interested if those who follow the antisemitism stuff closely (like killer b , hitmouse perhaps?) see any justification in the Loach expulsion?

sorry, I've not followed any of it closely in several years. loach is just a member of one of the recently proscribed groups though I think?

 

[Shechemite]

I’ve seen some talk about links with Labour against the witch-hunt but haven’t checked as tbh find it hard to give a shit either way any more

 

[Cerv]

Was surprised to learn today that Loach was still a member of the party

 

[belboid]

he has an honorary position with against the witchhunt, iirr. That will be enough to haul him jup and if he refuses to repudiate them....

 

[krtek a houby]

His expulsion will hopefully be chronicled in a forthcoming film. One boy and his pet project to destroy the labour party.

Keir

 

[Argonia]

Was surprised to learn today that Loach was still a member of the party

I am off politics entirely now and leave it to the good people of the nation to decide at the ballot box and now I am in the police my only concern is to lay the handcuffs on Tony Blair for his war crimes trial in the Hague so I can be fast tracked to Chief Constable of Northumbria Police but I thought genius Ken was safe with Left Unity who I will be voting for but there you go. I am totally mystified by Generalissimo Starmer who seems to want to re-enact the utter failure of Blairism just as the force is slowly starting to close on in to get him off to that Hague pilgrimage. Goodbye from me. The only thread I will now post on is the Blair to the Hague thread. Over and out.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Kicked out for failing to denounce the unpersons.

Still, at least the reign of the mad communist Corbyn is over.

 

[two sheds]

Kicked out for failing to denounce the unpersons.

Still, at least the reign of the mad communist Corbyn is over.

Stalinist Corbyn surely, who expelled all those disloyal right wingers ... err

 

[Badgers]

The idea that Ken Loach is expelled by Labour but Peter Mandelson a friend of Jeffrey Epstein, who hung himself in prison whilst awaiting trial on sex trafficking is still a member and a trusted advisor to the Labour Leader does raise questions about moral vacuity.

John Smith

 

[The39thStep]

This should do the trick

 

[killer b]

I saw Agile Ceremonies supporting Nation of Ulysses at Manchester Roadhouse in 1992, they were incredible live.

 

[ruffneck23]

Agile ceremonies, isnt that to do with project management ? ( I only know as I was reading up on AGILE last night.)

People aren't going to do that for peanuts.

 

[hitmouse]

Isn't product slang for drugs? I can sort of see the logic of the agile MCs being asked to adopt a coked-up mindset.

 

[ruffneck23]

alas no

Agile Ceremonies: Your Ultimate Guide To the Four Stages | Easy Agile

Agile ceremonies are a framework for productive teamwork in product development. To do them well, you need to understand the methodology behind each step.

www.easyagile.com

 

[hitmouse]

Labourlist writeup here:

Exclusive: Labour general secretary unveils new party structure to staff - LabourList

Labour general secretary David Evans used an all-staff meeting today to unveil the new party structure that has…

labourlist.org

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

I saw Agile Ceremonies supporting Nation of Ulysses at Manchester Roadhouse in 1992, they were incredible live.

Yeah, but that was after they sold out and went electric.

 

[oryx]

This should do the trick

Clearly shows the type of people the Labour Party are looking to employ nowadays. That's real Boardroom Bingo stuff!

 

[The39thStep]

Martin Luther King may have had a dream but suffered from a campaign which lacked flat dynamic structures and no clear role definitions for staff

 

[oryx]

Martin Luther King may have had a dream but suffered from a campaign which lacked flat dynamic structures and no clear role definitions for staff

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'...flat, dynamic structures where all views are respected and welcomed.' Isn't that a bit of a hypocrisy in the wider scheme of things?

 

[hitmouse]

repetition, repetition, repetition

 

[teqniq]

Agile ceremonies sounds like something straight out of Pseuds corner.

 

[The39thStep]

'...flat, dynamic structures where all views are respected and welcomed.' Isn't that a bit of a hypocrisy in the wider scheme of things?

All views within reason obviously, they are voter centric not staff centric

 

[The39thStep]

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repetition, repetition, repetition

not much evidence of a flat dynamic structures or multi disciplinary management there

 

[hitmouse]

Why did the farmer who also had a part-time job as a courier win an award?

 

[elbows]

Our scrote-centric approach is based on a foundation of fickle goal dynamics. We brought together the best of the organisation and discovered that they could fit into a small flat, with a strong dynamic towards throwing themselves out of the window. Transactions included the redistribution of wealth in favour of management consultants and their well-worn templates. The emperors new flow-chart is about as inspired, fresh and relevant as our policies.

 

[hitmouse]

From late July, but only just seen this:

GMB pulls funding for Labour Party in London after grieving caretaker sacked

Gary Bolister’s sacking over honest error looks like political victimisation, says GMB London

gmb.org.uk