Keir Starmer's time is up

[Artaxerxes]

Is Jess Phillips in any way important? I think of her as a backbench crank but her name comes up a lot.

She thinks she is and the papers love her cos she's got an accent so they can pretend she's deep working class

 

[Funky_monks]

Interesting that the town of my birth is having none of it - although I'm assured that it's because the council, run by the not always popular Paul Dennet has bypassed the rules stopping councils from building council houses by setting up a building company to...er.... build council houses. And also possibly something to do with Andy Burnham not standing for Boris's shite.

Always proud of the billigerant Salfordians.
LABOUR STRIKE AT THE TORIES WORSLEY HEART, LIBERAL DEMOCRATS MAKE A TINY DENT AND IT'S FAREWELL TO THE CITIES ONLY INDEPENDENT COUNCILLOR - FOR NOW?

 

[The39thStep]

Is Jess Phillips in any way important? I think of her as a backbench crank but her name comes up a lot.

She's a useful idiot . Plays safe and thinks too much of herself to be the stalking horse candidate., but can be primed to stick the boot in or land a blow from a far.

 

[JTG]

She thinks she is and the papers love her cos she's got an accent so they can pretend she's deep working class

Her mum was an NHS chief exec but she says "bab" a lot so she must be salt of the earth

 

[magneze]

"Leader says party considering moving HQ out of London to show it represents the whole country after May election defeats."

Yep, turn up symbolism. Don't actually DO anything.

Waste of space.

 

[Funky_monks]

I've just read an article in the Indy, Kicking Kier, but essentially blaming Corbyn by Anna Soubry.

Today is getting pretty fucking surreal......

 

[Rimbaud]

Perhaps I have rose tinted spectacles. But even at the height of New Labour I didn't despise the party like I do now. It was impossible not to have grudging respect for the efficient machine Blair and co built. And I pretty much grew up in a Labour Club, I was delivering leaflets as soon as I could walk. But now I'm left with such cold fury at how dreadful these people are and their bland patronising nothingness. So glad I was away this week and missed the ballot box tbh.

Listening to Mandelson this morning harp on about how Labour needs to learn the lessons of 97.

That's all they have isn't it? A cult of following a politically strategy which worked 25 years ago, and other than that blind faith they are nothing. They have nothing to offer.

25 years ago - before the Internet, before home computers, before mobile phones really took off. Before tuition fees and before an entire generation was priced out of the housing market and condemned to exploitation by unscrupulous landlords, and when you could quit school at 16 and get a job. Before the eurozone existed. When Yugoslavia still existed. When the British economy was still larger than the Chinese economy.

In other words - a completely fucking different world, but the Labour right refuses to move on and look at how things have changed.

 

[butchersapron]

The left behinds of vote leave myth and ukip all could have been handheld by Blair.

How could he/they have dealt with this myth?

Myth, you clueless prat.

 

[butchersapron]

I've just read an article in the Indy, Kicking Kier, but essentially blaming Corbyn by Anna Soubry.

Today is getting pretty fucking surreal......

you didn't have to - and that's entirely in line with well...everything ever.

 

[butchersapron]

In the old days, people did hang around on the back benches. Even after being PM. They didn't just retire to their pension. Gordon brown's hair went full grey as well.

 

[killer b]

In the old days, people did hang around on the back benches. Even after being PM. They didn't just retire to their pension. Gordon brown's hair went full grey as well.

I remember being surprised when watching a clip of Tony Benn making a speech to parliament in the 1999 and seeing Ted Heath still on the benches

 

[Funky_monks]

you didn't have to - and that's entirely in line with well...everything ever.

I kind of did, I read the strapline and thought "this sounds nuts" so I spent a whole precious minute of my life reading it. I was right, it is nuts. It didn't make me chuckle like the TIG/CHUK days though, I miss those.

 

[JTG]

Listening to Mandelson this morning harp on about how Labour needs to learn the lessons of 97.

That's all they have isn't it? A cult of following a politically strategy which worked 25 years ago, and other than that blind faith they are nothing. They have nothing to offer.

25 years ago - before the Internet, before home computers, before mobile phones really took off. Before tuition fees and before an entire generation was priced out of the housing market and condemned to exploitation by unscrupulous landlords, and when you could quit school at 16 and get a job. Before the eurozone existed. When Yugoslavia still existed. When the British economy was still larger than the Chinese economy.

In other words - a completely fucking different world, but the Labour right refuses to move on and look at how things have changed.

Saw a take today from a Blairite acquaintance (OK, enemy) which amounted to "the woke middle class left are obsessed with food banks and poverty when the real working class own their own homes and have foreign holidays" and I was agog. Just complete failure to understand the material conditions of anybody under 40 in this country

 

[a_chap]

 

[oryx]

Saw a take today from a Blairite acquaintance (OK, enemy) which amounted to "the woke middle class left are obsessed with food banks and poverty when the real working class own their own homes and have foreign holidays" and I was agog. Just complete failure to understand the material conditions of anybody under 40 in this country

Beggars belief! Do they believe that poverty and food banks are unreal/unimportant?

Also, plenty of over-40s affected by food banks and poverty.

 

[JTG]

Beggars belief! Do they believe that poverty and food banks are unreal/unimportant?

Also, plenty of over-40s affected by food banks and poverty.

Sure - my last bit was more about the home ownership and associated things (job security etc). Things are not the same as when this particular person was in his 20s and 30s

 

[BobDavis]

Not been to Hartlepool for yrs but I recall going there in my truck plenty of times. It is a nice enough town with all sorts living there. Plenty of people who would be regarded as working class earn good money. Get the right sort of truck driving job & you can earn £800pw. If Kierf resigns now it would be like he lost a general election which he hasn’t.

 

[RileyOBlimey]

Is Jess Phillips in any way important? I think of her as a backbench crank but her name comes up a lot.

Murdoch has promoted her and she’s lickspittle to Israel. This is why she’s promoted by hacks.

 

[killer b]

she’s lickspittle to Israel.

What does this mean?

 

[butchersapron]

Soros man

 

[Artaxerxes]

What does this mean?

Mystical conspiracy time

 

[1927]

what is this

Watching that you'd think that he thought everything was fine before yesterdays result. If he so clear about how to reconnect why hadn't he already done it?

 

[JTG]

Apparently the Beeb asked SKS if he was sure he was happy with that interview and did he want to keep going. He refused.

Imagine them offering Corbyn a second take

 

[Doodler]

Labour needs to embrace unilateral destarmerment.

 

[glitch hiker]

 

[Cid]

Apparently the Beeb asked SKS if he was sure he was happy with that interview and did he want to keep going. He refused.

Imagine them offering Corbyn a second take

The interview is about 16:03 bbc1 yesterday. Yes they did, but as I recall it was more in the sense of ‘here’s a spade if you’d like to keep digging, truculent refusal will also do’.

 

[Dr. Furface]

Beggars belief! Do they believe that poverty and food banks are unreal/unimportant?

Also, plenty of over-40s affected by food banks and poverty.

You bet they are

 

[MrSki]

 

[Pickman's model]

That's the constable off deep space 9 isn't it?

 

[The39thStep]

You bet they are

A great example of how irony works best when there is more than a grain of truth in it