Keir Starmer's time is up

[gentlegreen]

I reckon she's right. I voted Labour out of cowardice at the last three elections but I don't reckon anything would be better for anyone under Labour. If anything the Tory's recognise the need to throw a few crumbs here and there whereas Sir Kieth's proved himself willing to stab his party and the working class in the back without having had a sniff of power.

Would Labour have blown 10 battleships' worth of taxes on a critical project run on Excel 2007 ?

 

[Pickman's model]

Would Labour have blown 10 battleships' worth of taxes on a critical project run on Excel 2007 ?

It must be many decades since the royal navy retired its last battleship

 

[elbows]

Would Labour have blown 10 battleships' worth of taxes on a critical project run on Excel 2007 ?

They wasted a lot of resources in the swine flu pandemic by pointlessly throwing tamiflu at the problem.

 

[maomao]

Would Labour have blown 10 battleships' worth of taxes on a critical project run on Excel 2007 ?

Almost certainly.

 

[gentlegreen]

It must be many decades since the royal navy retired its last battleship

well whatever the boat is that just got launched ...

 

[TopCat]

And he wouldn't embarrass himself in interviews as starmer does, maintaining instead a mysterious silence

Like the Queen Mum for her last decades.

 

[ska invita]

As an aside, Starmer hasn't faced a conference yet. Covid has allowed him to be isolated from the membership till now

Could be an interesting one.

 

[JTG]

As an aside, Starmer hasn't faced a conference yet. Covid has allowed him to be isolated from the membership till now

Could be an interesting one.

That's meant that Evans has never had to have his appointment as General Sec ratified, enabling his purge of the left to continue unchallenged for 18 months until he has to face the membership

 

[Mr Moose]

Amazingly I reckon Burnham would have the best crack at it and he's not even an MP anymore!

Which is not unconnected to his popularity. As a candidate for Labour Leader he was as popular as yesterday’s cat sick.

Of course the problem with that leadership contest was that it was dominated by New Labour has been’s who could do nothing else but apologise for the state of the post crash economy. There is no excuse for Starmer (or whoever next) not to be making the case for some nationalisations and other interventions now.

 

[Orang Utan]

Saw this on Facebook:
“I don't understand how Labour lost after they did everything their enemies told them to do in order to win.”

 

[JTG]

Here we go

*or not as the case may be

 

[agricola]

Here we go

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fake, sadly

 

[JTG]

Yeah, just got that. Shame I'd love her to take them on their final tailspin into irrelevance

 

[killer b]

what was it??

 

[MickiQ]

Ironically appearing in my Facebook feed today, curryandpaxton are sunglasses retailers if anyone was wondering

 

[Sue]

what was it??

Jess Philips allegedly calling for a new leader.

 

[elbows]

Kuenssberg has spoken, the usual dreary pantomime.

Normally composed Starmer frustrated by results

He might not be ready to set anything out but plenty of people in the Labour movement already have - from Len McCluskey to Peter Mandelson.

Starmer may have to shout quite loudly to be heard over the debate that is already raging.

One of his allies told me Starmer is going to have to take his party by the scruff of the neck.

From the 16:47 entry of their live updates page. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-57016689

 

[JTG]

Jess Philips allegedly calling for a new leader.

I mean I believed it because it's entirely believable. She's definitely thinking it and she thinks it should be her

 

[Sue]

I mean I believed it because it's entirely believable. She's definitely thinking it and she thinks it should be her

Oh yeah, me too.

 

[chilango]

The BBC were name dropping her as potential leader when Clie Lewis was trying put his points across earlier...

 

[andysays]

Am I misremembering, or did Philips say she would run but then pull out with no explanation last time?

 

[campanula]

O god, this is depressing. I didn't vote for the first time in my life because I was so fucking disgusted with the snivelling behaviour of the Starmer and the completely invisible shadow cabinet. I don't see any way back for Labour...mostly because they are tone-deaf, inauthentic, have no sense of belonging or committment...basically Tory-lite with career expectations rather than even a smidgeon of ideology (well, any position at all), other than a grinning haircut, uncomfortably holding a pint. I found it condescending tripe, beneath contempt,. What other recourse do we have? Even now, the wrong questions are being asked. I can't bel;ieve lots of former Labour voters have suddenly become right wing...but an endorsement of Starmer would have been gleefully used to further disenfranchise anyone who had any disenchantment with authoritarian populist bully boys. What to do?

 

[JTG]

Am I misremembering, or did Philips say she would run but then pull out with no explanation last time?

She did indeed. The no explanation also extended to where the funds she'd raised for her campaign went

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Good live JC interview on channel 4 news tonight.

 

[belboid]

Am I misremembering, or did Philips say she would run but then pull out with no explanation last time?

she 'realised' it wasn't for her after a farcical hustings, where she basically told scotland and wales to fuck off (which was, frankly, the only thing she had to say)

 

[Artaxerxes]

Am I misremembering, or did Philips say she would run but then pull out with no explanation last time?

She's said so much it's hard to keep track.

I remember the knife comment mind

 

[RileyOBlimey]

Am I misremembering, or did Philips say she would run but then pull out with no explanation last time?

She didnt have support from the unions or membership. She’s favoured by Murdoch so must be a total wrongun.

 

[maomao]

Starker has conceded that the party has lost the trust if working people. He hasn't conceded it's his fucking fault though.

If Bailey takes London I wonder what Kahn's reaction will be.

 

[JTG]

So, SKS number one reason for not voting Labour. "Too left wing" (lol) and "too woke" - the idiot option - are well down the list

 

[hash tag]

well whatever the boat is that just got launched ...

His boat didn't come in.