Keir Starmer's time is up

[chilango]

Wait how come 10,724,953 votes in 2001 gave a stonking majority but 10,295,607 votes in 2019 gave the worst results since 1935?

Cos in 2001 they were the right kind of votes (for Blair) but in 2019 they were the wrong kind of votes (for Corbyn).

 

[Jeff Robinson]

what is this

 

[teqniq]

I think you need to take from that statement that the nurse perceived the present govt to be more competent at managing capital and society than Starmer and his lot.

Misinformed more like

 

[Cid]

Wait how come 10,724,953 votes in 2001 gave a stonking majority but 10,295,607 votes in 2019 gave the worst results since 1935?

UK population 2001: 59m
UK population 2021: 67.5m

Other factors... But this is % of vote for each:

2001

Lab: 40.7%
Con: 31.6%
LD: 18.3%
SNP: 1.8%

2019

Con: 43.6%
Lab: 32.2%
SNP: 7.4%
LD: 1.7%

 

[Pickman's model]

Misinformed more lies like

I dunno I think starmer would struggle to be more competent than the current lot.

 

[Cid]

what is this

It's Keir Starmer about an hour ago.

 

[Pickman's model]

UK population 2001: 59m
UK population 2021: 67.5m

Other factors... But this is % of vote for each:

2001

Lab: 40.7%
Con: 31.6%
LD: 18.3%
SNP: 1.8%

2019

Con: 43.6%
Lab: 32.2%
SNP: 7.4%
LD: 1.7%

Two factors you omit, namely that it takes rather more labour votes to win a seat than it does Tory votes and the distribution of Tory votes makes it easier for them to win too. Being as so many labour votes are in hackney and Lambeth and so on.

 

[TopCat]

Milliband, if he could recreate the “just back from holiday with a beard” look he sported once a few years ago, plus punched someone and decked them for being a bully, that would be a more successful strategy.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Kieth says utterly nothing in that interview. Nothing.

 

[Pickman's model]

Milliband, if he could could recreate the “just back from holiday with a beard” look he sported once a few years ago, plus punched someone and decked them for being a bully, that would be a more successful strategy.

Exhume the late Jim Callaghan and put him back in charge, stand him on the 1979 labour manifesto, and he'd almost certainly win more seats than starmer would

 

[TopCat]

Well we'll never know if starmer's more competent because he'll never get the opportunity to demonstrate how he'd manage capital and society

He won’t spell out his vision on how he would do it and what it would be.

 

[Argonia]

I hate first past the post so much, it's like living in a one party state

 

[butchersapron]

It's Keir Starmer about an hour ago.

It's the leader of the internal left-wing, hey let's have a second ref and support remain - BUT from the left!!! campaign is what it is. He helped set this wrecking ball rolling.

 

[Pickman's model]

He won’t spell out his vision on how he would do it and what it would be.

He hasn't any vision. He's not going waving, he's drowning. And the most sickening thing about it is the labour NEC refuse to put him out of our misery

 

[TopCat]

Exhume the late Jim Callaghan and put him back in charge, stand him on the 1979 labour manifesto, and he'd almost certainly win more seats than starmer would

That would not be sensible. He would be all manky. He family would be upset.
My option however is a goer and beefed up Ed would likely get more sex so trebles all round.

 

[brogdale]

what is this

Something we can all get behind...shirley?

 

[TopCat]

Kieth says utterly nothing in that interview. Nothing.

I’m having a drink before watching.

 

[TopCat]

what is this

I’m going in.

 

[Pickman's model]

That would not be sensible. He would be all manky. He family would be upset.
My option however is a goer and beefed up Ed would likely get more sex so trebles all round.

I suspect the Callaghans would be behind it and would love to see red Jim ride again

 

[agricola]

At the risk of ventriloquising voters who aren't me, I wonder if might occur to the Labour Party head honchos one day that when many voters say in focus groups that they value patriotism, what they might mean is something like 'I value a country that makes me feel valued, and I insist on wanting that country even when it seems fictional'. The flag is not the point you worthless PR-machine pricks.

They honestly don't understand that it isn't. Patriotism is something like football, something that the proles like and so the politician must claim to like it too.

 

[JTG]

what is this

 

[TopCat]

Has he got social anxiety?

 

[TopCat]

I suspect the Callaghans would be behind it and would love to see red Jim ride again

They can plastasize a body. That might work then. Red Jim. In the spirit of compromise comrade I will go with your plan.

 

[Pickman's model]

They can plastasize a body. That might work then. Red Jim. In the spirit of compromise comrade I will go with your plan.

And he wouldn't embarrass himself in interviews as starmer does, maintaining instead a mysterious silence

 

[elbows]

He'd probably manage to drink more of his pint than Starmer too.

 

[butchersapron]

They honestly don't understand that it isn't. Patriotism is something like football, something that the proles like and so the politician must claim to like it too.

The key is to be genuinely part of something - something old or new. Something that you grew up in or took part in kicking off. Labour still are in some areas - the areas they are now losing. Shortcuts like this will be sniffed out for the cynical crap they are in exactly these areas. To do it this way is to endorse and be part of bad things. A plan drawn up by people who think working class people don't really exist beyond their marketing can only be 1997 lucky once - or very very rarely.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Has he got social anxiety?

Some people have unwarranted feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness.

Others have entirely warranted feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness.

 

[elbows]

Maybe he's got a prosecution complex.

 

[maomao]

I think you need to take from that statement that the nurse perceived the present govt to be more competent at managing capital and society than Starmer and his lot.

I reckon she's right. I voted Labour out of cowardice at the last three elections but I don't reckon anything would be better for anyone under Labour. If anything the Tories recognise the need to throw a few crumbs here and there whereas Sir Kieth's proved himself willing to stab his party and the working class in the back without having had a sniff of power.

 

[Pickman's model]

I reckon she's right. I voted Labour out of cowardice at the last three elections but I don't reckon anything would be better for anyone under Labour. If anything the Tory's recognise the need to throw a few crumbs here and there whereas Sir Kieth's proved himself willing to stab his party and the working class in the back without having had a sniff of power.

That's unfair. He's quite prepared to stab them in the front, as with his numerous and ostentatious acts of support for the Tory government in votes in parliament