Keir Starmer's time is up

[glitch hiker]

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Pretending to sell carrots now

I'm guessing that's a foodbank.

Says it all about modern Britain. You have people pretending to care about the poor while awful humans gather with cameraphones to photograph a would be tyrant

 

[The39thStep]

Angela Raynor would be the obvious candidate - working class, good people skills, witty, popular, good communicator and with an eye catching back story - a perfect riposte to posh, elite johnson in a way starmer could never be. Leftish without being as scary as Jezza. Surprised she didnt go for it last time. She's also driven and ambitious - so wouldn't be at all surprised if we see close associates of her briefing against kieth in the near future.

I've known her for years . She's not a boat rocker, won't fight the right wing in the party and won't strike the first blow. If she stood she'd be heavily chaperoned.

 

[Raheem]

I don't want to go down some macho nonsense route of thinking politicians have to vigorous, manly or similar shite. But oh my, if you go to a boxing club and know you'll be faced with a photo op like that you either do it properly or you ham it up. Johnson of course is rather good at the hammy approach, 'biffing' labour when it's boxing, clearing a kid out when it's rugby. Needless to say, the stuff that johnson is good it is part of the reason I hate 'politics', but even so, kieth needs a bit of awareness of how he's going to come across if his boxing A-Game makes him look like a couch potato on his first day at the gym.

Blair would have had a private practice session first.

 

[Dogsauce]

Sur Kieth- the Michael Howard of Labour's wilderness years.

I was thinking today that he’s the William Hague, someone the party had great hopes in but turns out to be a bit ineffectual and shite. Has he tried donning a baseball cap yet?

 

[Dogsauce]

. Whereas he may be especially incompetent as a leader, who else who is likely to take over who will do anything substantially different?

The answer is Burnham, but obviously not someone they can just drop in as not currently an MP. Longer term I think he’s in with a shout, someone reasonably effective at communicating with the public.

 

[two sheds]

Laura Pidcock but similar and I can't see the party putting her up for a seat.

 

[andysays]

I was thinking today that he’s the William Hague, someone the party had great hopes in but turns out to be a bit ineffectual and shite. Has he tried donning a baseball cap yet?

Hague was famous/infamous for drinking a large number of pints at a Young Tory conference, or something similar.

Starmer seems to be trying to become famous for being photographed frequently holding a full pint, but never actually drinking anything.

 

[Raheem]

Think it's a bit unfair comparing Starmer to anyone with any sort of defining characteristics or personality.

 

[steeplejack]

I was thinking today that he’s the William Hague, someone the party had great hopes in but turns out to be a bit ineffectual and shite. Has he tried donning a baseball cap yet?

Hauge was just a joke- a shattered Tory Party's utterly pathetic attempt to try and do Tony Blair. Howard works as a comparison, as he's exactly the kind of clever-clever, intellectually sharp but ultimately lacking the common touch, charismatically bypassed, and voter-repellant QC.

Howard is by all accounts a better lawyer, too. Imagine waking up and finding out you're a weak echo of a forgotten and deeply unpopular former Leader of the Opposition.

 

[Wilf]

Blair would have had a private practice session first.

Headers with Kevin Keegan. 'I'd love it me...'

 

[brogdale]

The man who'd been told to fuck off...

 

[Orang Utan]

The man who'd been told to fuck off...

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Looks like a conman who has failed to sell an elderly couple a time share flat in Marbella that hasn’t been built yet

 

[JTG]

Yeah I'd expect that whenever it does become obvious to them it's not working, their first instinct is going to be that Starmer hasn't gone far enough - they'll double down before they'll change direction.

Keep saying it, any challenge to SKS comes from the right initially. Scorpion/frog analogy.
The left may have the numbers to get someone on the ballot (assuming they stick together - not sure the likes of Tarry or Russell-Moyle are gonna necessarily go with the Campaign Group line) but it's the right who will knife Starmer first

 

[Mr Moose]

Guardian article recommending that Labour needs to be left wing to win.

Keir Starmer must lean right to win? History suggests otherwise | Michael Jacobs and Andrew Hindmoor

A cautious approach works for Labour only when the economy is booming – not in times of crisis, say two professors of politics and political economy

www.theguardian.com

"...a cautious, moderate platform looks to be neither an economically appropriate stance, nor an electorally winning one."

I’m sure this is correct, but the problem for Labour is it is utterly unable to dictate a narrative. We now have the Tories claiming that they do economic intervention better (they do it a bit shit and unfairly) but if Labour tried to outdo that it would soon be portrayed as profligate, the ‘magic money tree’ would be wheeled out, as if the UK’s finance makes any sense as it is.

Maybe a line could be that the Tories aren’t delivering the Brexit people voted for and are delivering the failures people feared. Try to lead the debate on what good looks like for ‘independent’ UK (or what will be left of it) from here.

 

[Pickman's model]

Looks like a conman who has failed to sell an elderly couple a time share flat in Marbella that hasn’t been built yet

and he's going back later to try to persuade them to vote labour

 

[Sue]

ok I was wrong he is truly a man of the people, he eats fish and chips out of cardboard boxes in a not-at-all-staged-photo.

All hail our leader.

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A true Man Of The People would be eating them with his fingers.

 

[two sheds]

indeed, out of newspaper - I was being generous

 

[Cid]

A true Man Of The People would be eating them with his fingers.

I disagree, fork is acceptable. However, he’s got the wrong type. Has to be either a small blue plastic one, or one of those equally small wooden ones.

 

[belboid]

I disagree, fork is acceptable. However, he’s got the wrong type. Has to be either a small blue plastic one, or one of those equally small wooden ones.

It is a small white plastic one, you can see clearly from the other people. I guess its a north-east thing, the wrong colour, but it really should be wooden if he is to maintain his environmentalist reputation.

 

[Raheem]

indeed, out of newspaper - I was being generous

I'm not sure I've seen newspaper in a chip shop for about 15 years. I even had chips at Beamish and they had greaseproof paper printed to look like newspaper.

He should, of course, be eating winkles with a toothpick.

 

[Orang Utan]

Think it not legal anymore cos of hygiene. Or mebbe it was some bloody EU directive that we can now gloriously ignore.

 

[fishfinger]

Think it not legal anymore cos of hygiene. Or mebbe it was some bloody EU directive that we can now gloriously ignore.

Unfortunately is was nothing to do with the EU:

Brexiteer wanting fish & chips served in newspaper back finds it’s a UK law

A Brexiteer who is looking forward to having fish and chips served in newspaper wrapping back once we leave the European Union made the painful discovery that it is actually a UK law yesterday.

 

[Orang Utan]

Unfortunately is was nothing to do with the EU:

Brexiteer wanting fish & chips served in newspaper back finds it’s a UK law

Still, at least we don’t have to eat straight bananas any more

 

[fishfinger]

Still, at least we don’t have to eat straight bananas any more

And none of those Brussels sprouts

 

[Cid]

It is a small white plastic one, you can see clearly from the other people. I guess its a north-east thing, the wrong colour, but it really should be wooden if he is to maintain his environmentalist reputation.

It's a standard white plastic fork. Has to be a chip fork.

 

[two sheds]

Unfortunately is was nothing to do with the EU:

Brexiteer wanting fish & chips served in newspaper back finds it’s a UK law

Political correctness gorn maaaaad newspapers are sterile, they even used to be used to deliver babies on

 

[Raheem]

It's a standard white plastic fork. Has to be a chip fork.

They're definitely 4-pronged white plastic forks. A crime against tradition and the environment in one go.

 

[Orang Utan]

Round my way, chip forks are wooden - none of that plastic nonsense

 

[Sue]

It is a small white plastic one, you can see clearly from the other people. I guess its a north-east thing, the wrong colour, but it really should be wooden if he is to maintain his environmentalist reputation.

pWe used to view people who ate chips with one of those (wee wooden) forks as posh as you had to pay for them. (Can't remember if it was 2p or 5p.)

 

[ska invita]

pWe used to view people who ate chips with one of those (wee wooden) forks as posh as you had to pay for them. (Can't remember if it was 2p or 5p.)

curry sauce all over your chips you need a fork tbf