elbows
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No he isn't
My Mum initially bought into the electability argument but abandoned it months ago due to his dismal and uninspiring performances, the flag shit and the obvious lack of interesting policies.
No he isn't
Drakeford, the MP and Senedd candidate took him down to the beach for fish and chips...somehow he manages to look like some sort of posh undertaker who has never eaten anything without a plate & cutlery.
The only substance the phrase has is to identify someone as fitting into a very narrow set of permissable conservative values which stand zero chance of delivering any meaningful change whatsoever.My Mum initially bought into the electability argument but abandoned it months ago due to his dismal and uninspiring performances, the flag shit and the obvious lack of interesting policies.
The FT did series of articles on Corbyn/ McDonnell economic policies before last election. Impression I got was that they took them seriously as a viable option. So someone they could do business with.
Starmer when seeking election as leader made 10 pledges.
Keir Starmer - MP for Holborn and St Pancras and Labour Leader
Keir Starmer is a husband, father, and former lawyer who has fought for fairness his whole working life. He is now Labour Party leader.keirstarmer.com
These basically promised to keep Corbyn policies on nationalisation, green new deal and keep many of Corbyn radical policies.
So when you say Starmer is a centrist do you mean he should drop his pledges?
Drakeford, the MP and Senedd candidate took him down to the beach for fish and chips...somehow he manages to look like some sort of posh undertaker who has never eaten anything without a plate & cutlery.
Bacon sandwich next?
That never fails to raise a giggle, apocryphal or not.Do you think Starmer confused mushy peas for guacamole like his hero Mandelson did after visiting a chip shop?
He also said he was going to unify the party
Drakeford, the MP and Senedd candidate took him down to the beach for fish and chips...somehow he manages to look like some sort of posh undertaker who has never eaten anything without a plate & cutlery.
Bacon sandwich next?
You mean he's brushed his hair, dreseses "business casual", is a London based member of the establishment and who's poll ratings are dropping off a cliff?They don't 'love' him in the way they 'loved' Corbyn. He's someone they could do business with...a centrist. Electable. Which is a start.
when does it stop being a bounce?Not sure how the idea of a vaccine bounce explains the loss of support to parties other than the Tories.
the only way out of this with any dignity for sir keir starmer is to throw himself off a cliff taking boris johnson with him. or jumping off the reichenbach falls with bj.You mean he's brushed his hair, dreseses "business casual", is a London based member of the establishment and who's poll ratings are dropping off a cliff?
That kind of electable?
It's obviously not him that's the problem, it's because he hasn't purged enough dangerous lefties yet...Labour's polling numbers under Keith 'Electable' Starmer continuing to nosedive I see.
Was this Duke of Edinburgh award thing his own idea, or did some - may allah forgive me for uttering this word - courtier come up with it themselves?
Labour's polling numbers under Keith 'Electable' Starmer continuing to nosedive I see.
On a more serious matter, at which point do those who continue to invest time and energy in the British Labour Party accept that the millions of - mainly working class - votes that Labour have hemorrhaged between 1997-2021 are never coming back, or at the very best are not coming back in the numbers that would be required?
As politician social media chip lols go, it's got a way to go before it can live up to the classic Scottish tory six chip twat:Drakeford, the MP and Senedd candidate took him down to the beach for fish and chips...somehow he manages to look like some sort of posh undertaker who has never eaten anything without a plate & cutlery.
Magic StepdadYou mean he's brushed his hair, dreseses "business casual", is a London based member of the establishment and who's poll ratings are dropping off a cliff?
That kind of electable?
everyone else is hovering just below 10% pretty much, which is where Yougov are mostly too.I enjoy the schadenfreude at Starmer's Labour as much as anybody, but for the sake of balance YouGov are giving Labour particularly poor pollings at the minute, that's not quite reflected in the other polls.
This. Seems to me Labour are just about 'inert' now. They don't even have the Blair's grab the middle classes and hope the working class will stay loyal approach. There's even less of Miliband's apologetic attempts to vaguely do ... whatever it was, cast in stone. I don't get a sense that Labour are interacting with, creating a rapport or seriously talking to, any particular constituency. The blue wall shows the old working class = in a union = vote Labour has gone, so they've lost many of the old channels of communication to core voters. But in the absence of that there's no obvious project in play of any sort other than loyalty to the PM, patriotism and, erm, that's it. Historical hyperbole is easy, but I've never seen Labour as such a flabby formless thing as they are today. And yes, why would anybody waste their time with that.It’s quite impressive that he’s managed it without any attention or hammering from the press. Just imagine where Kieth could take things with a bit of scrutiny and media led attacks....
On a more serious matter, at which point do those who continue to invest time and energy in the British Labour Party accept that the millions of - mainly working class - votes that Labour have hemorrhaged between 1997-2021 are never coming back, or at the very best are not coming back in the numbers that would be required?
My memory - which may be faulty - was that rail was in the 1997 manifesto. Subsequently dropped because 'it would cost too much'. Labour went on to spend billions over the next 13 years trying to make privatisation work....Few expect him to keep to that promise. For example on nationalisation the whispers are all will be dropped, though rail may be kept in the manifesto - which in itself doesnt mean it would be enacted if Labour win.
As I recall, the apocryphal chipshop was in Hartlepool. Don't you love the synchronicity?That never fails to raise a giggle, apocryphal or not.
Scottish tory six chip twat:
wouldn't be surprised if they call one this autumn with these numbers.the next GE.