friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
That's so British
It was trial by urban. He should be given an urban sentence
I need to go pee again.
I think I might have a urinary infection. I blame this thread
Just found out a guy who works for me is being a git
- Thread starter Pingu
- Start date
It was trial by urban. He should be given an urban sentenceI need to go pee again.
I think I might have a urinary infection. I blame this thread
Pingu it is was not your use of the phrase or the context of it I was referring to. I still haven't put my kids gloves on this morning, so I will do that and as William says... More later 
FWIW and I can only go off your posts, Pingu, but I would have no problem with Pingu Enterprises Ltd.
Will explain more later...
FWIW and I can only go off your posts, Pingu, but I would have no problem with Pingu Enterprises Ltd.
Will explain more later...
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Has anyone in the work force gone to their trade union about his behaviour?
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
What have you done with the real firky?Pingu it is was not your use of the phrase or the context of it I was referring to. I still haven't put my kids gloves on this morning, so I will do that and as William says... More later
FWIW and I can only go off your posts, Pingu, but I would have no problem with Pingu Enterprises Ltd.
Will explain more later...
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Don't quite understand why you are getting so worked up ymu.
After the appalling rape there was a widescale protest not just about the rape but also about womens rights in India. It raised the issue that India has a bad record on womens rights much higher in the minds of the world, including among people like me - who rarely read UN reports.
eta: and I am not playing ANY ranking game.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
Look at what you posted and the context you posted it in. It couldn't be much more insulting to women and Indian people if you tried. I know you're a complete sweetheart and you weren't trying to offend anyone, but perhaps try a bit harder not to? This article explains it quite well.
I think I owe Pingu a clarifcation and explanation to my objection at the phrase 'the Indian' on this thread. My coffee is brewing, I fixed the fuse on the coffee machine with a bit of tin foil so there's every-chance the switch will trip in the middle of a paragraph. Anyway...
As Manter has no doubt figure out it was directed at her. Although I feel a bit of a twat pulling you up like this, Man', I do feel you're totally out of order. You do not identify anyone as "the Indian", let alone refer to them as such. They're not a dog, athough you would think the guy was when you say things like this:
You see I'd let that slip ordinarily but you use that turn of phrase more than once on this thread. I am not about to go through and find them all again but your repeated use of this phrase is what I took objection to. Also I notice a bit of a pattern to some of your posts. I don't know if you are aware but Urban is a predominately left wing board, people come here, post year after year because it is a reminder that the world is not full of bigoted arseholes and there are people out there who are normal and well 'nice' to coin LP. It's not the first time you've done something that has been questionable.
Within the last six weeks or so you referred to your junior staff as "overheads" and yourself as "the revenue". Your explanation for that was you're in a foul mood but if you read it - people were really fucking pissed off you about that but did not what to pollute a legendary thread with further sewarge. Only nipsla (?) really said what a lot of people were thinking, everyone else kept their claws in. The other example is that of your bored and brain dead house wives, and something about you being a nice middle-class girl.Again I think you got away lightly with that one because it was in the Christmas forum.
Finally you call gentlegreen a misogynist. That's a very powerful world to throw around because someone doesn't like heels and (oddly) thinks women can't park in them or some such thing. Sexist, old fashioned and a bit odd, yes he is - but do you really think he'd have been around here and be as liked as he is if had some pathological hatred for women?
If we're going to throw words like that around with out thought then I call you a racist for referring to the guy Pingu employed as 'The Indian'. Why? Because it smells like someone who's smart enough to know that they can't get away with calling him a 'paki' but not smart enough to realise why their chosen phrase is objectionable.
To be honest I don't think you really 'get' what Urban is, what it's roots, what it stands for. That maybe diluted somewhat because of it's recent popularity, and it's more prominent posters leaving Urban for Facebook because people like you are starting to water it down.
Not going to chase you off the boards are hound you down, but I do think you need to have a think about what Urban is and how you fit into it. New comer of the year or not.
Grew bored of acting I hear
As Manter has no doubt figure out it was directed at her. Although I feel a bit of a twat pulling you up like this, Man', I do feel you're totally out of order. You do not identify anyone as "the Indian", let alone refer to them as such. They're not a dog, athough you would think the guy was when you say things like this:
You see I'd let that slip ordinarily but you use that turn of phrase more than once on this thread. I am not about to go through and find them all again but your repeated use of this phrase is what I took objection to. Also I notice a bit of a pattern to some of your posts. I don't know if you are aware but Urban is a predominately left wing board, people come here, post year after year because it is a reminder that the world is not full of bigoted arseholes and there are people out there who are normal and well 'nice' to coin LP. It's not the first time you've done something that has been questionable.
Within the last six weeks or so you referred to your junior staff as "overheads" and yourself as "the revenue". Your explanation for that was you're in a foul mood but if you read it - people were really fucking pissed off you about that but did not what to pollute a legendary thread with further sewarge. Only nipsla (?) really said what a lot of people were thinking, everyone else kept their claws in. The other example is that of your bored and brain dead house wives, and something about you being a nice middle-class girl.Again I think you got away lightly with that one because it was in the Christmas forum.
Finally you call gentlegreen a misogynist. That's a very powerful world to throw around because someone doesn't like heels and (oddly) thinks women can't park in them or some such thing. Sexist, old fashioned and a bit odd, yes he is - but do you really think he'd have been around here and be as liked as he is if had some pathological hatred for women?
If we're going to throw words like that around with out thought then I call you a racist for referring to the guy Pingu employed as 'The Indian'. Why? Because it smells like someone who's smart enough to know that they can't get away with calling him a 'paki' but not smart enough to realise why their chosen phrase is objectionable.
To be honest I don't think you really 'get' what Urban is, what it's roots, what it stands for. That maybe diluted somewhat because of it's recent popularity, and it's more prominent posters leaving Urban for Facebook because people like you are starting to water it down.
Not going to chase you off the boards are hound you down, but I do think you need to have a think about what Urban is and how you fit into it. New comer of the year or not.
Grew bored of acting I hear
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I think you are being over prickely ymu, I did not suggest rape does not happen in the UK or USA for that matter - perhaps if I had emphasised the indian reaction to the rape rather than the rape itself you might have been less offended. But for me, it was the reaction to the rape that made me realise more about the state of women in India.
In the context of this thread, it was implied that Mr Stupid had his negative views on women because of cultural reasons, my intention was just to point out that - they may have a point - !
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
Why? If this thread was taking place in India and was about you you'd probably be called the Englishman, or am I missing something?
'Overheads.'
Great.
Great.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Have to say, I could easily have used the term "the indian" on this thread without too much thought and am not so clear why it is offensive, I may be being slow but could you explain? When I have been abroad people have referred to me as "the englishman" or "englander" or "Pom" or whatever ..
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
only within your hearing.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that's rather kinder than what i had in mindor what is it the French say? Roastbeef!
weltweit
Well-Known Member
As long as the French continue, as they so far have, to stop and help me when I break down or crash in their country they can call me what they like !!
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
Unless you're very touchy about 1066, that's not a big deal. It's a bit different when the country you're criticising for being fucked up is fucked up because it's poor, especially when it's poor in part because European colonialism robbed the region blind for a few centuries whilst promoting extreme chauvinism and violence as an ordinary tool of government.As long as the French continue, as they so far have, to stop and help me when I break down or crash in their country they can call me what they like !!
Bit of respect is all that's being asked for. Too much to ask?
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Hmmm - not sure about this. I get the point about using Indian as an adjective rather than a noun (even though it is also a noun) but I suspect this is an instance when the motive to change the language used is predicated on the assumption that the user is a prejudiced dimwit. And yes, I know that's how language works (cf. coloured is offensive) but I'm not sure that we've reached the tipping point where this usage has become de facto offensive.
Also, Manter used "Lebanese guy" and "Nigerian guy" upthread.
BTW, I don't like lots of assumptions being made about me just because I'm a man. Perhaps I should start insisting people refer to me as the "English male human".
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Manter
Lunch Mob
Scrap what I said, that personal attack has reduced me to tears, I am horrified at being accused, absolutely without foundation, of racism, (i suspect you don't even believe it, i suspect you are deliberately being hurtful). While i know hormones doesn't leave me in the most calm and robust state, I should be focussing on more important things right now than defending myself against personal attacks. I liked and appreciated what I found on here-support, friendship, information-, but I can't deal with being called racist, a fucking sick fuck, sewage,and the other stuff that has been thrown at me for having the temerity to be on here and occasionally disagree with others. Some of what you call me up on is fair- I apologised to nipsla because she was quite right to call me on what I said. Most of the rest of it, I disagree with, but I am not robust enough right now to deal with a lunch mob who hate me just for who I am.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
(((OWM)))
(((WASP)))
Don't be a prat (sorry - a "prattish person"), I was making a linguistic point not trying to plead discrimination.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I'm not known for my advocacy for employers, but in cases where racism, sexism etc are involved, employers are obliged to act fast, because if they don't, they too can be liable for that individual's behaviour. A swift talking-to now could potentially save them a lot of money down the line.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
Respectfully edited
BoatieBird
Well-Known Member
I'm happy to be a "brain dead housewife", I never have to use a 3 letter acronym
So you are a BDH then?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
If he's a professional, then his nationality and possible cultural prejudices are immaterial - he should know how to act around clients, and how to follow the chain of command.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
This needs a couple of paragraph breaks in it for the benefit of the reader
*Legs it
People always used paragraphs in the olden days.
Similar threads
