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Sure, she does now. But in terms of her upbringing it seemed to imply that bring raised in a comfortable environment meant one couldn't be working class.

Her parents own a company (for which she worked); literally, the definition of capitalists.
 
Sure, she does now. But in terms of her upbringing it seemed to imply that bring raised in a comfortable environment meant one couldn't be working class.

Her upbringing was amongst professionals. She went to Grammer School and then university. She then worked for the business her parents had set up before becoming ‘a business development’ manager for a local council and then MP.

Classically middle class.

She did love to hang around the rougher end of the market I’ve heard. A classic middle class vicarious thrill seeker. And she never tires of telling us about her experiences of Sandwell and the poverty she observed before going home.
 
Her upbringing was amongst professionals. She went to Grammer School and then university. She then worked for the business her parents had set up before becoming ‘a business development’ manager for a council and then MP.

Classically middle class.

She did love to hang around the rougher end of the market I’ve heard. A vicarious thrill
Right, that's what I was asking for when you said comfortable upbringing.
 
Interesting comparison actually...a woman's intellect (ability to do mental arithmetic) Vs a man being a 'womaniser'.

Not Boris' intellect, his buffoonery, his faux pas, his racism, his hypocrasy...nope... His interest in and ability to pull women.

Long live the Patriarchy.

While many of the attacks against Abbott are racist and sexist it’s not unreasonable to laugh at her maths. She wants to hold one of the major offices of state and make decisions that affect millions of people. She ought to be good at communicating with people. Giving her a free pass could be considered sexist if the normal response to car crash political interviews is to poke fun.

While the criticisms of Abbott and Johnson are different they go to two fundamentals of public office, character and competency or at least they would if these were qualities regularly displayed by MPs.
 
What she does is sort of an authentocrat thing (great examples in here) - then idiots like the above can come to their defence on the basis that somehow the working class is homogeneous and has no internal differences . Like the above. It also helps pull the wool over the eyes of those who should know much much better. Getting conned by an accent basically.

spot on. I’ve never met anyone who speaks like her. And I’ve lived here all my life.
 
While many of the attacks against Abbott are racist and sexist it’s not unreasonable to laugh at her maths. She wants to hold one of the major offices of state and make decisions that affect millions of people. She ought to be good at communicating with people. Giving her a free pass could be considered sexist if the normal response to car crash political interviews is to poke fun.

While the criticisms of Abbott and Johnson are different they go to two fundamentals of public office, character and competency or at least they would if these were qualities regularly displayed by MPs.
What if her maths on that day were the product of illness?
 
She is an Oxbridge educated privy councillor who sends her kids to private school. She is right there in the heart of the establishment by any reasonable measure.

Using racist or misogynist abuse to attack her is reprehensible. But that’s not what Athos did. That others have done it is not a reasonable criticism of Athos.
I haven't said athos did that and I'm struggling to see how you draw that conclusion. I'm arguing that Abbot is not a typical Oxbridge graduate.

Also, what I replied to athos (which he's responded to).

Can't see how you can perceive Abbot as being at the 'heart of the establishment'.
 
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