Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Do you think a comfortable upbringing means one can't be working class?
No. It’s about social, cultural and economic capital.
Jess has plenty of 1 and 2 and enough of 3
Do you think a comfortable upbringing means one can't be working class?
Her ma was deputy chief exec of the nhs confederation, so doesn't strike me as a hornyhanded daughter of toilDo you think a comfortable upbringing means one can't be working class?
Sure, she does now. But in terms of her upbringing it seemed to imply that bring raised in a comfortable environment meant one couldn't be working class.No. It’s about social, cultural and economic capital.
Jess has plenty of 1 and 2 and enough of 3
Sure, she does now. But in terms of her upbringing it seemed to imply that bring raised in a comfortable environment meant one couldn't be working class.
Sure, she does now. But in terms of her upbringing it seemed to imply that bring raised in a comfortable environment meant one couldn't be working class.
Right, that's what I was asking for when you said comfortable upbringing.Her upbringing was amongst professionals. She went to Grammer School and then university. She then worked for the business her parents had set up before becoming ‘a business development’ manager for a council and then MP.
Classically middle class.
She did love to hang around the rougher end of the market I’ve heard. A vicarious thrill
Awesome bowelsDon't bother with Rivendelboy. Butchers latest post reminded me that it's just the latest incarnation of a many times banned fool
Interesting comparison actually...a woman's intellect (ability to do mental arithmetic) Vs a man being a 'womaniser'.
Not Boris' intellect, his buffoonery, his faux pas, his racism, his hypocrasy...nope... His interest in and ability to pull women.
Long live the Patriarchy.
What she does is sort of an authentocrat thing (great examples in here) - then idiots like the above can come to their defence on the basis that somehow the working class is homogeneous and has no internal differences . Like the above. It also helps pull the wool over the eyes of those who should know much much better. Getting conned by an accent basically.
No need. Your post was arrant nonsense in itself.Happy to be proven wrong.
You must be permanently over the moon thenHappy to be proven wrong.
Thanks for that, it’s a well written examination. Well worth the read.an authentocrat thing
why?No need. Your post was arrant nonsense in itself.
Its all round awesomeness.why?
What if her maths on that day were the product of illness?While many of the attacks against Abbott are racist and sexist it’s not unreasonable to laugh at her maths. She wants to hold one of the major offices of state and make decisions that affect millions of people. She ought to be good at communicating with people. Giving her a free pass could be considered sexist if the normal response to car crash political interviews is to poke fun.
While the criticisms of Abbott and Johnson are different they go to two fundamentals of public office, character and competency or at least they would if these were qualities regularly displayed by MPs.
So you don't know?Its all round awesomeness.
What if her maths on that day were the product of illness?
he's taking the piss out of youSo you don't know?
I guess, but I bet she'd get the same criticism, "not up to the job" etc.Go off sick?
In my younger and more vulnerable years I’d have been annoyed he didn’t notice. But he did.he's taking the piss out of you
another bully, well doneIn my younger and more vulnerable years I’d have been annoyed he didn’t notice. But he did.
That’s rich.another bully, well done
you've surely heard the saying 'bully for you'? well, this is what it means: there is a bully for youanother bully, well done
we were having a perfectly pleasant conversation but sad old class warrior wannabes don't want that to happen. Would you like to continue?This is why we can't have nice things.
we were having a perfectly pleasant conversation but sad old class warrior wannabes don't want that to happen. Would you like to continue?
I haven't said athos did that and I'm struggling to see how you draw that conclusion. I'm arguing that Abbot is not a typical Oxbridge graduate.She is an Oxbridge educated privy councillor who sends her kids to private school. She is right there in the heart of the establishment by any reasonable measure.
Using racist or misogynist abuse to attack her is reprehensible. But that’s not what Athos did. That others have done it is not a reasonable criticism of Athos.
That’s how this detour started. I thought we were still on it. But fair enough.I haven't said athos did that and I'm struggling to see how you draw that conclusion.
She’s literally a privy councillor.Can't see how you can perceive Abbot as being at the 'heart of the establishment'.