Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Mr Moose]

Why do you think that? Does anyone even know who she is? (I just looked her up because I didn’t.)

I thought she was Jeremy’s own rising star. He has had her deputise for him in the HoC and she does lots of media.

If it was known within the Party that she was not a good potential leader, for reasons of character and ability, then fine or if there is clearly someone better. But if Labour loses the GE, which must take place soonish, then the leadership question will re-emerge anyway.

She does appear at the moment, to have a number of positives for different voters, female, Northern, loyal to JC and younger. So yes, Labour could get a bounce.

 

[butchersapron]

Easy game this

 

[Pickman's model]

I thought she was Jeremy’s own rising star. He has had her deputise for him in the HoC and she does lots of media.

If it was known within the Party that she was not a good potential leader, for reasons of character and ability, then fine or if there is clearly someone better. But if Labour loses the GE, which must take place soonish, then the leadership question will re-emerge anyway.

She does appear at the moment, to have a number of positives for different voters, female, Northern, loyal to JC and younger. So yes, Labour could get a bounce.

If you look at a bouncy ball bouncing you'll notice it tends to fall as often as it rises

 

[Mr Moose]

If you look at a bouncy ball bouncing you'll notice it tends to fall as often as it rises

It’s Parliamentary politics. Disappointment is the only guarantee.

 

[ska invita]

Good question.
She’s appears competent, a bit technocratic and dull to me.

agree. Laura Pidcock - Wikipedia seems good, but only 32 and not long an MP.
Please god not Emily Thornbury

ETA: found this Which female MP could succeed Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader?
wasn't conscious of Angela Rayner - Wikipedia before tbh

 

[Mr Moose]

agree. Laura Pidcock - Wikipedia seems good, but only 32 and not long an MP.
Please god not Emily Thornbury

It’s hard to see how ET would win. Even the Labour Party isn’t that committed to self harm.

 

[brogdale]

agree. Laura Pidcock - Wikipedia seems good, but only 32 and not long an MP.
Please god not Emily Thornbury

ETA: found this Which female MP could succeed Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader?
wasn't conscious of Angela Rayner - Wikipedia before tbh

Gotta say that Pidcock's recent media appearances/interviews have seemed far from convincing.

 

[Mr Moose]

Gotta say that Pidcock's recent media appearances/interviews have seemed far from convincing.

Yes agreed. On the plus side she is quite formidable and the first Johnson attempt to patronise her would be dealt with devastatingly.

 

[ska invita]

Gotta say that Pidcock's recent media appearances/interviews have seemed far from convincing.

Missed that... Anything embarrassing in particular?

 

[killer b]

I'll have Andy Mcdonald as my fantasy labour leader.

 

[cantsin]

Good question.

She’s appears competent, a bit technocratic and dull to me.

RLB is a bit dull, and not left enough for the grassroots (was brutally dismissive of Open Selection last year ) - next leader will deffo be a woman, and Laura Pidcock is miles out in front of RLB with members, but need JC to hang around long enough for her to get (probably shadow ) frontbench experience etc to work out whether she's even viable - straight after next GE would be much too early for LP, as 2020 would be for AOC in US

 

[danny la rouge]

I'll have Andy Mcdonald as my fantasy labour leader.

 

[brogdale]

Missed that... Anything embarrassing in particular?

Nothing 'car-crash' outstanding, just that she's come across in a couple i've seen as a tad dis-jointed, easily deflected and defensive. I know media training can help with such matters, but certainly wasn't left with the feeling that i was watching leadership material. But just a personal view & I know others have spoken warmly of her speeches at the Gala etc.

 

[chilango]

I think we should have that Steph McGovern off the telly.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'll have Andy Mcdonald as my fantasy labour leader.

i suggested a fantasy shadow cabinet to newspapers some time ago, as a political alternative to fantasy football, but sadly no one took me up on it

 

[Mr Moose]

I'll have Andy Mcdonald as my fantasy labour leader.

Do you think he is a good enough media performer?

 

[Mr Moose]

i suggested a fantasy shadow cabinet to newspapers some time ago, as a political alternative to fantasy football, but sadly no one took me up on it

What’s your proposed scoring system?

 

[butchersapron]

This all a bit tragic and tawdry isn't it? The labour wheel is going to turn regardless of whether you put your shoulder to it. Why do this? Why not, knowing this, use the opp to attack labour for it's councils austerity impositions, it's lack of fightback on this etc?

 

[Mr Moose]

This all a bit tragic and tawdry isn't it? The labour wheel is going to turn regardless of whether you put your shoulder to it. Why do this? Why not, knowing this, use the opp to attack labour for it's councils austerity impositions, it's lack of fightback on this etc?

Because we are just chatting on the internet.

 

[cantsin]

i suggested a fantasy shadow cabinet to newspapers some time ago, as a political alternative to fantasy football, but sadly no one took me up on it

sounds like a winner, but maybe expand it to just fantasy league politics, globally ( who's going to win what / where / when , who's getting sacked, win points for having finance ministers in yr team who's countries GDP is going to rise healthily next year (though less points if totalilatarian state capiltalism is driving force, eg : China - though their GDP is stalling anyway I think ) . win ( or lose ? ) points if your defence ministers country is involved in a war ( points rise / or fall with death toll ? Bit macabre possibly ) ... endless permutations.

We ( its we now ) could add AI / 5G and Tik Tok into the picture ( to help drive / promote platform ) and go on Deagon's Den with it ?

 

[Pickman's model]

What’s your proposed scoring system?

establishing a political equivalent of opta, working from that model

 

[brogdale]

establishing a political equivalent of opta, working from that model

Will 'assist' points count if the pass is to the opposition?

 

[Pickman's model]

Will 'assist' points count if the pass is to the opposition?

being as it was a fantasy shadow cabinet thing, all passes to the opposition are good

passes to the government of the day are of course bad

 

[Mr Moose]

being as it was a fantasy shadow cabinet thing, all passes to the opposition are good

passes to the government of the day are of course bad

What if someone is in my team one week and they lose the whip?

 

[brogdale]

being as it was a fantasy shadow cabinet thing, all passes to the opposition are good

passes to the government of the day are of course bad

Now wishing I hadn't picked mad Frankie Field up front.

 

[Pickman's model]

What if someone is in my team one week and they lose the whip?

you lose points.

 

[Mr Moose]

Do we all need at least one speaker in our team?

 

[Pickman's model]

Do we all need at least one speaker in our team?

it would help, as politicians who never speak will never earn you points.

 

[Mr Moose]

it would help, as politicians who never speak will never earn you points.

Does the quality of what they say matter for the game? Most of them talk utter bollocks after all.

 

[Pickman's model]

Does the quality of what they say matter for the game? Most of them talk utter bollocks after all.

the more meaningless the speech the more points you gain