Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[NoXion]

No one said it was. You fucking plum.

My comment was a response to ‘I don’t know who Winstanley is because blah blah twitter blah blah’

You obviously spend far too much fucking time on Twitter and were just piqued that someone had the audacity to point that out. Not everyone shares your hobbies, and that's OK.

 

[Shechemite]

You obviously spend far too much fucking time on Twitter and were just piqued that someone had the audacity to point that out. Not everyone shares your hobbies, and that's OK.

Erm ok

 

[Shechemite]

Piqued

 

[Libertad]

Piqued

too early?

 

[Shechemite]

too early?

Obviously. And that’s OK.

 

[Treacle Toes]

You obviously spend far too much fucking time on Twitter and were just piqued that someone had the audacity to point that out. Not everyone shares your hobbies, and that's OK.

TBF it would be bad enough if it was just this constant posting of twitter dribble and insisting that it's the be all and end all of everyfuckingthing and that everyone should know about it/be reading it/care but it's not. It's the being logged in here seemingly everyfuckingday and jumping all over a handful of posters that he seems to think are easy targets and that he can bully into silence.

It's the blatant, jaw dropping hypocrisy of him being someone who last year attacked people here on the regular accusing them of 'identity politics' and being thick yet here he is pretty much daily posting on only 2 subjects that he cares about whilst smugly and aggressively sitting guard on those threads ready to pounce with yet another misreading of what people actually post, demands that others have the conversations he thinks are important, that others think like he does because that's the only way etc, without a shred of self-awareness.

It's also the dumbfoundingly disappointing reality that because he's managed to endear himself to the small handful of posters he's decided are 'important or sound' around here he is rarely challenged for the continuous, snidey, dishonest, hypocritical shit.

He's one of a few people I routinely choose not to engage with because it's pointless; I do however sometimes let my guard down and forget that I don't actually give a shit about what he thinks.

 

[Shechemite]

TBF it would be bad enough if it was just this constant posting of twitter dribble and insisting that it's the be all and end all of everyfuckingthing and that everyone should know about it/be reading it/care but it's not. It's the being logged in here seemingly everyfuckingday and jumping all over a handful of posters that he seems to think are easy targets and that he can bully into silence.

It's the blatant, jaw dropping hypocrisy of him being someone who last year attacked people here on the regular accusing them of 'identity politics' and being thick yet here he is pretty much daily posting on only 2 subjects that he cares about whilst smugly and aggressively sitting guard on those threads ready to pounce with yet another misreading of what people actually post, demands that others have the conversations he thinks are important, that others think like he does because that's the only way etc, without a shred of self-awareness.

It's also the dumbfoundingly disappointing reality that because he's managed to endear himself to the small handful of posters he's decided are 'important or sound' around here he is rarely challenged for the continuous, snidey, dishonest, hypocritical shit.

He's one of a few people I routinely choose not to engage with because it's pointless; I do however sometimes let my guard down and forget that I don't actually give a shit about what he thinks.

And that’s ok

 

[dylanredefined]

Eh? Could you wave your hand in the air and be any more dismissive please?

So now according to you...the 'Tories aren't actually in charge' so we needn't consider the fact that they actually are still in government and that their anti-corbyn/national threat rhetoric has been and continues to be spouted daily. Also, you want to conveniently gloss over the fact that the armed forces are traditionally Conservative institutions and that those at the top are notoriously CUNTSERVATIVE in their views and culture. Right.

I could try, find anyone in the Army with any responsibility condoning this.

 

[Spymaster]

... so we needn't consider the fact that they actually are still in government and that their anti-corbyn/national threat rhetoric has been and continues to be spouted daily.

Anti Corbyn rhetoric from the ... conservative party!

 

[ska invita]

Anti Corbyn rhetoric from the ... conservative party!

You missed out national threat from the quote. They didn't call Blair a national threat

 

[ska invita]

I could try, find anyone in the Army with any responsibility condoning this.

We've had the ex head of secret services and key military figures all push the line that Corbyn is a threat. A quick Google should pull up some choice quotes. No one is saying it's openly condoned, but it's clearly related to the attitudes of the higher ups, including ruling class tories

 

[Spymaster]

You missed out national threat from the quote. They didn't call Blair a national threat

But of course they would have, had they had the ammunition. Perhaps if Blair had cosied up to Russia the way Steptoe did over Salisbury he might have achieved similar epithets.

 

[Shechemite]

I’m sure Corbyn is just gutted to be seen as a threat to the British state. Just gutted

 

[ska invita]

But of course they would have, had they had the ammunition. Perhaps if Blair had cosied up to Russia the way Steptoe did over Salisbury he might have achieved similar epithets.

So youre saying he deserves it.

 

[Spymaster]

So youre saying he deserves it.

I couldn't give a toss about him but I'd fully expect his political opponents to make use of all the ammo he supplies them. If this was a tory bellend and the boot was on the other foot, there would be resounding cheers from the Urban faithful!!!

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I couldn't give a toss about him but I'd fully expect his political opponents to make use of all the ammo he supplies them. If this was a tory bellend and the boot was on the other foot, there would be resounding cheers from the Urban faithful!!!

Well no actually. It's not like it would mean that the army was full of hardcore socialists despising the capitalist ruling class and using Tories as target practice. It would mean that there were people even further right than we thought who thought May was a traitor to the white race or something. And I expect that lot exists, too.

 

[Spymaster]

Well no actually. It's not like it would mean that the army was full of hardcore socialists despising the capitalist ruling class and using Tories as target practice. It would mean that there were people even further right than we thought who thought May was a traitor to the white race or something. And I expect that lot exists, too.

Two different things. Elements of the army using Steptoe imagery for target practice - silly. The tory party weighing in with the "national threat" schtick - unsurprising and to be expected.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Two different things. Elements of the army using Steptoe imagery for target practice - silly. The tory party weighing in with the "national threat" schtick - unsurprising and to be expected.

"doesn't really matter then" basically

 

[Shechemite]

Can hatred towards politicians within the army ever be socialist?

 

[Spymaster]

"doesn't really matter then" basically

Which one?

 

[brogdale]

"doesn't really matter then" basically

Apparently not; can't recall one minister or May commenting at all.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Which one?

All possible aspects are either silly or unsurprising apparently.

 

[Spymaster]

All possible aspects are either silly or unsurprising apparently.

Well done.

 

[Treacle Toes]

"doesn't really matter then" basically

I mean it's not like a labour MP was recently killed by a White Nationalist or anything, nor that plots to kill another have been discovered.... let's ignore wider context and pretend everything is A okay... Let's ignore the rise in these things happening here in the UK and elsewhere in the world in part driven by populist, dog whistle right wing rhetoric and pretend above all else that the culture of the military--arm of the state hates everyone equally, always has done .

..

 

[Spymaster]

There are some dickheads in the army. Whodathunkit?

 

[danny la rouge]

Tell the Dunblane Dickhead to stop needling me, and I will stop responding.

The 'left wing entitled' effluvium coming from his direction is quite nauseating.

Yes. You are right. This isn't the thread.

This is the correct thread.

Sass, it’s a bit rich for you to say I’m needling you when it was you who resurrected the issue. I’d drawn a line under it.

I know you’ll find it hard to get your head around, but you are completely barking up the wrong tree in your imagination of what it is I disapprove of in what those paras were doing. It is not some wet, liberal refusal to recognise the realities of what infantry do, but the opposite. I’m well aware of their role in the apparatus of the state. And in a supposed democracy, that is not to interfere with the running of the state by redemptive violence. Even symbolic redemptive violence. In fantasising about taking out the leader of the opposition, they politicised the armed forces. And we know where that leads, don’t we? We both know what the name is for people who applaud that, don’t we? It’s a term that you like to fling around without justification, and yet here you are, one of the very few people on these boards actually to accurately deserve the term.

And please note, I do not support Corbyn, his party, his person, his character, his abilities, or his inept soft centre social democratic managerialist programme for tinkering with capitalism. There’s much about him and his performance to disapprove of.

But the military interfering in British political life, even symbolically? - that is something I put squarely on the side of the demons. That is something that repulses and disgusts me. That is something I will always oppose.

And, no, it isn’t something I’d think of as trivial.

 

[Sasaferrato]

This is the correct thread.

Sass, it’s a bit rich for you to say I’m needling you when it was you who resurrected the issue. I’d drawn a line under it.

I know you’ll find it hard to get your head around, but you are completely barking up the wrong tree in your imagination of what it is I disapprove of in what those paras were doing. It is not some wet, liberal refusal to recognise the realities of what infantry do, but the opposite. I’m well aware of their role in the apparatus of the state. And in a supposed democracy, that is not to interfere with the running of the state by redemptive violence. Even symbolic redemptive violence. In fantasising about taking out the leader of the opposition, they politicised the armed forces. And we know where that leads, don’t we? We both know what the name is for people who applaud that, don’t we? It’s a term that you like to fling around without justification, and yet here you are, one of the very few people on these boards actually to accurately deserve the term.

And please note, I do not support Corbyn, his party, his person, his character, his abilities, or his inept soft centre social democratic managerialist programme for tinkering with capitalism. There’s much about him and his performance to disapprove of.

But the military interfering in British political life, even symbolically? - that is something I put squarely on the side of the demons. That is something that repulses and disgusts me. That is something I will always oppose.

And, no, it isn’t something I’d think of as trivial.

Forgive me if I disagree with you. Of course, I disagree from a position of knowledge of the forces. Nothing more amusing that the witless beating their gums about things they know nothing about.

The matter is trivial. Your faux outrage is just that.

 

[brogdale]

Forgive me if I disagree with you. Of course, I disagree from a position of knowledge of the forces. Nothing more amusing that the witless beating their gums about things they know nothing about.

The matter is trivial. Your faux outrage is just that.

Convenient

 

[Treacle Toes]

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Convenient

Apologism..

 

[danny la rouge]

Forgive me if I disagree with you. Of course, I disagree from a position of knowledge of the forces. Nothing more amusing that the witless beating their gums about things they know nothing about.

The matter is trivial. Your faux outrage is just that.

You’re a literal fascist.