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Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

Someone has dug up a radio broadcast from 2015 that apparently features David Duke somewhat happy that Corbyn won the Labour party leadership on account of people waking up to "Zionist power" or something similar.

It's in the Times so behind a paywall, but you can find it on Twitter or elsewhere no doubt.
 
I'd pay good money to see centrist twitter having a meltdown over the #WeAreCorbyn hashtag. That's if I hadn't muted most of the cunts.
 
Think its really good that he's said what he's said. This bit below is a bit odd, i don't see why he felt it necessary to use the example of jews criticising the israeli state and the timing (Friday eve so any observant jews will not see it till sunday morning) but it makes me feel hopeful that this might calm down now, the last week has been kind of ridiculous.
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I know. It can’t surely carry on like this though, if only cos the papers need to move on everyone is sick of it, the people who don’t see the problem by now are the problem and their minds won’t be changed by more of the same.

ETA I don’t know what your latest post means.
 
He's written this! Might actually help to draw a line under all this hopefully.
I will root antisemites out of Labour – they do not speak for me | Jeremy Corbyn
“Labour staff have seen examples of...crude stereotypes of Jewish bankers....and even one individual who appeared to believe that Hitler had been misunderstood.”

I think it was JC defending the “crude stereotypes” and Ken “believing Hitler had been misunderstood”. He is about as introspective as Trump.

He is utterly failing at set the media agenda, and appears utterly to fail to see how the issue has become personalised around him. I can’t believe he will ever lead labour to any sort of victory. If he can’t even poll better than this Tory government he really does need to stand down and make way for a grown up. He may have some talent as a backbencher, but he’s hopeless as a leader. Sorry. He’s a failure.
 
Nick Robinson just before 9 claimed that Corbyn himself compared what's happening in Gaza to the Holocaust. Anyone know if that's actually true?
 
No Labour Party leader apart from Tony Blair has ever set the media agenda, and Blair did it by doing some sort of deal with Murdoch.

He's never going to get anything approaching a fair hearing - remember what they did to moderate Ed Milliband?

The distressing problem for Corbs is that there's a largeish section of his own party (in parliament, and its media arm) who are after him. I think he and McDonnel have expected it and may well have planned to accept it as a coup attempt and ignore it and ride it out. They may well have considered the mainstream media completely lost to them in any case and not worth bothering with. And they probably have plans to get rid of those MPs who won't accept him as leader - who might well fuck off of their own volition in any case.

Tactically, I think they're probably surprised by the ferocity and durability of this attack, hence the article in the Guardian.

But I think a lot of people can see this for the smear campaign it is - Dan Hodges, who writes for the Daily Mail for fuck's sake, with its disgusting dog-whistling anti-semitism around Ed Milliband's "unBritish" father, what a fucking hack: "I stand with Britain's Jews" indeed. EDIT: Not to say there is no anti-semitism in Labour, and particularly around areas where Corbyn has been involved in the past - and few other mainstream British politicians have, let alone party leaders - and he needs to make clear statements on that and the party need to make sure their rules are in good order. I think they're doing that.

I saw some poll that showed that Corbyn (and Corbynism if you like) are pretty unpopular until election periods when laws kick in that allow some semblance of balance in some media coverage - hence the "shock" election result.

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I haven't! I misphrased that. It wasn't a poll, it was an article about polling.

I'm sorry to say that I can't find it now, but it seems plausible to me. Outside election periods, coverage of the Labour Party - and particularly Corbyn - in mainstream press and media is overwhelmingly negative. During election campaigns broadcast rules on impartiality kick in and Labour gets more of a chance to get their actual message across and become markedly more popular.
 
No Labour Party leader apart from Tony Blair has ever set the media agenda, and Blair did it by doing some sort of deal with Murdoch.

He's never going to get anything approaching a fair hearing
... They may well have considered the mainstream media completely lost to them in any case and not worth bothering with. And they probably have plans to get rid of those MPs who won't accept him as leader - who might well fuck off of their own volition in any case.

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So it’s fake news, despicable journalists, the media really are the enemy of the people.

You have to work with the tools of the trade.
 
Yes, but if Corbyn continues to hold the views he holds he just won't get a fair hearing from a press that is essentially owned by oligarchs whose interests he threatens. He could change his views and the Labour Party's policies to suit them, and then he would get a fairer hearing.

So it’s fake news, despicable journalists, the media really are the enemy of the people.

I never said any of those things. I very much support good, honest, press coverage that holds powerful people to account - and I would very much welcome it ;).

I hate Trump, I hate this post-truth crap and I hate the undermining of facts that you don't like by shouting FAKE NEWS or SOROS or whatever at journalists, and the vast majority of it is coming from the far right.

Most of what we're talking about here is "opinion journalism" and in that he's fucked in the vast majority of the press and also - despicably - in the public service broadcast media.

But Corbyn is not a communist spy. Yet that was on the front page of the Sun. That is fake news by despicable journalists who are - in that instance - the enemies of any people who you think deserve truthful reporting. In fact, I'd probably argue that a whole load of the British print media operates directly against the interests of most of their readership.

Corbyn and Momentum will use social media to produce their own stuff and to find friendlier voices there. And he has a chance of fair coverage and maybe even support in the Guardian, Independent, and Mirror of the mainstream, national press - he should try to work with what he can get there.

Do you think Dan Hodges, for example, is going to give Jeremy Corbyn a fair hearing, on anti-Semitism or any other issue?
 
I agree with you, I’m just frustrated and disillusioned about the current political landscape. I’m a Labour “moderate” (you can insert “Blairite scum” there if you wish, but please qualify with “antebellum” ;) ) so the thought of defenestrating a large number of MPs (plus their media wing, and members) saddens me.

“Dan Hodges”? I stop reading there. Same with “Owen Jones” .
 
Think its really good that he's said what he's said. This bit below is a bit odd, i don't see why he felt it necessary to use the example of jews criticising the israeli state and the timing (Friday eve so any observant jews will not see it till sunday morning) but it makes me feel hopeful that this might calm down now, the last week has been kind of ridiculous.
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It's obvious why he wrote it. He is absolutely right too. The 'self-hating' Jew insult is being thrown around with abandonment and arrogance, usually aimed at any Jewish person who dares criticise Israel.
 
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