Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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Smashing.
Would you like to return to the topic at hand and address what I've said? Or do you want to try and show off some more? Honestly you're behaving like a child
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Not really.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Vote labour. Been addressed.
This is embarrassing.
Who, you think you're being clever and catching butchers out with your irony, but he's operating at a whole ironic plane above you.
Take your supposed put down about caps lock. In truth, butchers' political understanding and insight is amongst the most respected on this board. When he says "at least seven (respect me) you LIAR" he's mocking your approach to the discussion. So when you come back showing you've missed this mockery, you just play straight into it and 100 people reading the thread laugh as a consequence. Or, in my case, cringe.
Who, you think you're being clever and catching butchers out with your irony, but he's operating at a whole ironic plane above you.
Take your supposed put down about caps lock. In truth, butchers' political understanding and insight is amongst the most respected on this board. When he says "at least seven (respect me) you LIAR" he's mocking your approach to the discussion. So when you come back showing you've missed this mockery, you just play straight into it and 100 people reading the thread laugh as a consequence. Or, in my case, cringe.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I'm beginning to see a pattern here...
I'm not surprised, I shouldn't have to ask an adult to stop behaving like a child and stick to the topic. But apparently if I want to try and have a conversation with you, that seems necessary and repeatedly so. All you're doing is trolling.
Is that why he can't answer a straight question?
I'm not trying to be anything, I'm just having a conversation. It's sad and telling that you think otherwise, moreso that one should be proud they can mock others.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
No, the pattern is that when you desire to belittle someone you demand they stop behaving like a child: ageist.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
In other news... Corbyn has said he won't resign after losing on June 8th.
Jeremy Corbyn Says He Won't Quit Even If He Loses The General Election
I suspect he believes he won't resign, but won't have much choice.
Jeremy Corbyn Says He Won't Quit Even If He Loses The General Election
I suspect he believes he won't resign, but won't have much choice.
I have found that if your mind is open to the possibility that your unspoken and unconsidered assumptions might be wrong, butchers gives very straight answers. Furthermore, the questions themselves are rarely as straight as the asker thinks.
I have further observed that people who are not open to this possibility tend to have a bad time.
That's not true though, is it? You're not trying to have a conversation on this issue. You're trying to lecture others and tell them why they're wrong. But the people you are telling this to have given the issue a lot deeper thought than you have and as a result, your simple and direct statements are falling on rocky ground.
Start again and ask your questions in the spirit that the person you are asking might actually be right in their approach and is worth learning from. You might get a difference kind of response.
It's a mockery of the approach you are using, not the individual using the approach. And that is a reasonable rhetoric.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
From that piece:
(my bold)
The media do indeed give him a hard time but he doesn't help himself.
That is implicit in the very question "give me an alternative", so really you're just not paying attention while busy defending someone who's behaviour is piss poor. Good luck with that, Butchersapron is blocked. I've given him ample opportunity to behave respectfully and engage in discussion.
And comments like this, blind assertions, are the problem. If you can't see that, then there's nothing more to say. I think I've comported myself reasonably and shown respect to others. If that respect can't be reciprocated, then have a nice day
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I will batter down your chinese walls.That is implicit in the very question "give me an alternative", so really you're just not paying attention while busy defending someone who's behaviour is piss poor. Good luck with that, Butchersapron is blocked. I've given him ample opportunity to behave respectfully and engage in discussion.
And comments like this, blind assertions, are the problem. If you can't see that, then there's nothing more to say. I think I've comported myself reasonably and shown respect to others. If that respect can't be reciprocated, then have a nice day
So you're just a wind up merchant then: it's ok when you lecture me, but if I respond suddenly it's time to roll the eyes? Have some self respect at least!
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Kabbes: the noted wind up merchant. The geezer.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
well there would have to be another leadership challenge to oust him if he refused to go right? wether he'd win a third after the GE loss I don't know but I don't think he'd be nailed on certain to lose it. Heels have been dug in .
A few years ago you would have been slaughtered for that.
mikey mikey
Active Member
Good. Then the moderates can have their fucking Jarvis or whoever and abstain on all the cuts. Long articles in the Graund about "hard choices" in between the section on where to get the best organic kale and the article on why Tuscany is no longer the ideal for the sequel to Eat, Pray Love.
Thank fuck I am not in the UK. What a pit of vipers.
mauvais
on reddit or something
Back in the good old days eh. Well, I walk past it every day. It's at least one of the circles of hell.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the guardian lost the plot over corbyn ages ago. I don't think they've ever got over their beloved lib dems getting mugged off by the tories and then sunk by the electorate.
By mugged off I presume you mean willing partners in a let'sfuckthepoor gangbang.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yeah, there's a possibility he might try and stay on and, like you say, the remaining MPs would have to actually trigger a contest. He really is resilient and will no doubt be planning the succession, trying to get the odd rule change and all that. But I can't see him surviving the derision that's going to follow the defeat. There will be ex MPs ripping up their membership cards, defections to the piss yellows and the like. The membership will also carry on falling. I'd have thought he would be gone at least by the next conference.
nuffsaid
But this goes up to 11
Surely Labour will split if he doesn't leave after the GE. The PLP will feel galvanised for a leadership battle but Corbyn would still have the huge mandate from the membership. The PLP will feel they've given him a chance to prove himself at a GE and Corbyn will still want to control the path of the party going forward -
I sense an immovable object being hit by an irresistible force, time to buy popcorn.
I sense an immovable object being hit by an irresistible force, time to buy popcorn.
mikey mikey
Active Member
Yeah! Cooper will save us! Her husband can dance! Jess Philips will swear and Hilary Benn can whip up support for the bombing of Syria/Yemen/Iraq/Iran!
Tom Watson can use his half a million Nazi money to go to Glastonbury every year!
Best of all, Tony will be smiling from above with auntie Mandy and Baron Sainsbury.
Tom Watson can use his half a million Nazi money to go to Glastonbury every year!
Best of all, Tony will be smiling from above with auntie Mandy and Baron Sainsbury.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Why don't you go on a board where people are saying this stuff? Go back to the guardian boards and you can do this all day.
Bizarre.
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