Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[brogdale]

The humiliation of the membership came later. Wherever you stand on left politics through Labour, the routing of the blairites in that leadership election was a pleasure to watch imo. They were humiliated.

It wasn't 4% you know; it was 4.46%...actually.

 

[Raheem]

Beacuse unless you're in one of a handful of constituencies you'll have to vote for a scumbag.

True enough. But, in most constituencies, if you've decided that you will vote, you're choice is between four or five scumbags, plus the occasional mystery candidate who you have no chance of ever finding out anything about.

 

[butchersapron]

True enough. But, in most constituencies, if you've decided that you will vote, you're choice is between four or five scumbags, plus the occasional mystery candidate who you have no chance of ever finding out anything about.

So a lib-dem vote is ok?

 

[redsquirrel]

True enough. But, in most constituencies, if you've decided that you will vote, you're choice is between four or five scumbags, plus the occasional mystery candidate who you have no chance of ever finding out anything about.

I was making the point that most people can't vote for "Corbyn's Labour" instead they have to vote for a Labour candidate with is opposed to him and his views.

 

[rutabowa]

Beacuse unless you're in one of a handful of constituencies you'll have to vote for a scumbag.

I'll be voting for the government of a nation though, not a constituency. Won't everyone?

 

[redsquirrel]

Have left Labour, finally.

I'm not a Blairite, i actually support the economic and domestic policy he proposes, i just cannot in good conscience ask people to vote - or vote myself - to put Corbyn in No 10 given his overseas/defence/security policy, and what i know if his beliefs and character.

Right so you can't support Corbyn's foreign policies but you could stand the murder of 1 million+ people, invasions of any number of countries, support for dictatorships etc. Pathetic.

 

[Raheem]

So a lib-dem vote is ok?

I don't follow.

 

[redsquirrel]

I'll be voting for the government of a nation though, not a constituency. Won't everyone?

No, nobody will unless you've got some special magic vote.

 

[rutabowa]

No, nobody will unless you've got some special magic vote.

Isn't your point that you disagree with the parliamentary system entirely though? I've already said that I can understand that if yr doing other stuff, but for me there isn't any choice.

 

[brogdale]

I'll be voting for the government of a nation though, not a constituency. Won't everyone?

That's tosh.

 

[butchersapron]

Isn't your point that you disagree with the parliamentary system entirely though? I've already said that I can understand that if yr doing other stuff, but for me there isn't any choice.

Of course are other choices. For you.

 

[rutabowa]

That's tosh.

I guarantee you that is how people vote.

 

[butchersapron]

It's tosh.

 

[butchersapron]

I guarantee you that is how people vote.

It's not what you said about yourself though.

 

[brogdale]

I guarantee you that is how people vote.

It might be how some voters think they are voting, but they're not.

 

[rutabowa]

It's not what you said about yourself though.

I would totally include myself in that group. I will be voting for what party is going to lead the nation, not my council.

 

[butchersapron]

I would totally include myself in that group. I will be voting for what party is going to lead the nation, not my council.

What's wrong with you?

 

[rutabowa]

Of course are other choices. For you.

Yes I agree there are other personal choices I could make.

 

[gosub]

I'll be voting for the government of a nation though, not a constituency. Won't everyone?

As others have said it's not technically possible, but sans pedentry yep probably over half the ballots cast are about that

 

[Fez909]

I can totally get people not voting because they disagree with the parliamentary system and are doing other stuff. I cannot comprehend anyone who is vaguely left wing and actually going to vote not voting for the current Labour Party though.

Beacuse unless you're in one of a handful of constituencies you'll have to vote for a scumbag.

This is my 'problem'. I want Corbyn to win, but to vote Labour I'd have to put my cross next to Rachel "I'll cut deeper than Thatcher" Reeves. No thanks.

Related to that, wouldn't surprise me if she's the next leader. Having a woman in charge might be the only way Labour can have a little come-back in GE 2023 or whenever it is.

 

[butchersapron]

This is my 'problem'. I want Corbyn to win, but to vote Labour I'd have to put my cross next to Rachel "I'll cut deeper than Thatcher" Reeves. No thanks.

Related to that, wouldn't surprise me if she's the next leader. Having a woman in charge might be the only way Labour can have a little come-back in GE 2023 or whenever it is.

Don't vote lib-dem at least.

 

[Fez909]

Don't vote lib-dem at least.

I wouldn't.

Alliance for Green Socialism sometimes stand around here...though that's usually in locals.

GE is a shit show. Think I went Green last time. Can't remember...

 

[butchersapron]

I wouldn't.

Alliance for Green Socialism sometimes stand around here...though that's usually in locals.

GE is a shit show. Think I went Green last time. Can't remember...

All funking nonsense.

What's the main prob up your way?

 

[Fez909]

All funking nonsense.

What's the main prob up your way?

Housing.

Loads of rich students and scum landlords = nightmare for people who stay here. It's in the top 10 most expensive cities in Europe for renting a room.

Or do you mean with political parties etc?

 

[butchersapron]

Housing.

Loads of rich students and scum landlords = nightmare for people who stay here. It's in the top 10 most expensive cities in Europe for renting a room.

Or do you mean with political parties etc?

Bristol I mean social - all space here is now given over to student housing. There's work but it's in towns outside.

 

[butchersapron]

Could be a thread for you fez: 'whats wrong with your city'?

 

[Mr Moose]

Despite all this, you have to remember that a trad hard left socialist leader like Corbyn scoring 25%+ after near two years of hammering as being hard left anywhere else in europe would be seen as a massive thing.

Only if it came from nowhere and he was leading a hard left party. But he's not really hard left and the party even less so. As such 25% is a disaster, a trouncing and a worse showing could lead to significant collapse as we saw in Scotland. As it is Labour will probably do badly in the local elections and take that form forward to the GE.

 

[campanula]

Bristol I mean social - all space here is now given over to student housing. There's work but it's in towns outside.

The 'student housing' scam seems to have gained massive traction - unsurprisingly since it is a blatantly disgusting and filthy con game of squeezing as many units into the smallest piece of land...with none of the usual development criteria such as parking, infrastructure such as schools, GPs etc. None of these units are occupied by recognisable 'students', are shabbily built on the cheap...and will no doubt be the future homes of (multiple) families as long as councils retain some (laughable) statutory responsibilities.

Yep, housing...or lack of it the main issue here. And the corrupt liggers on the Labour controlled council (fucking guided bus system ffs).

Not terribly happy with spunking cock option - but will consider vagina dentata...or barbed wire yoni.

 

[Fez909]

fucking guided bus system ffs

We got one of those as well. What a fucking ridiculous thing.

£40m was wasted on various plans for a tram system that never materialised: Leeds Supertram - Wikipedia

Which turned into a trolleybus system that never happened: Trolleybuses in Leeds - Wikipedia

And now there's talk of a "tram-train" system (trams that can go on existing branch lines) - which is actually a good idea....but won't happen.

This is what we got instead:

 

[YouSir]

We got one of those as well. What a fucking ridiculous thing.

£40m was wasted on various plans for a tram system that never materialised: Leeds Supertram - Wikipedia

Which turned into a trolleybus system that never happened: Trolleybuses in Leeds - Wikipedia

And now there's talk of a "tram-train" system (trams that can go on existing branch lines) - which is actually a good idea....but won't happen.

This is what we got instead:

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Aren't most busses guided? Generally by a driver?