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Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

Labour in England heading for the same exit door as they took here in Scotland. Blairite shits work for, and even prefer that option. Many of em would probably vote Tory rather than accept a Left led Labour Party. Utter cahnts. And that blob Tom Watson could do with keeping his drooling mouth shut.
 
Because these are the only choices. Lefties :rolleyes:

It's not 'lefties', it's cultists.

There are people in my CLP who believe that the Corbyn/McDonnell economic model is laughably and fatally compromised by its acceptance of neo-liberalism, but who in the same breath would tell you that Corbyn is an unmitigated disaster, and that they will find themselves in an impossible position come the next election as they will not, on the evidence so far, be able in good conscience to cast a vote to make Corbyn PM.
 
one of the problems with cultists is that they believe everyone else is in rival cults.

Not really. I mean, I personally think Progress in an entyrist party-within-a-party and that some of the hysterics shown by members of Labour First resembles the kind of "End is Nigh" that is eerily similar to Heaven's Gate, but on a national scale, the word "cult" has been thrown more AT Jeremy's supporters than by them.

The classic urban question, is there anyone better than Corbyn? If not the Labour party is totally done for, but then I gave up on them recently so I don't care.

So you didn't have the balls. Colour me unsurprised.
 
Not really. I mean, I personally think Progress in an entyrist party-within-a-party and that some of the hysterics shown by members of Labour First resembles the kind of "End is Nigh" that is eerily similar to Heaven's Gate, but on a national scale, the word "cult" has been thrown more AT Jeremy's supporters than by them.



So you didn't have the balls. Colour me unsurprised.

The balls? The knowledge more like - I doubt I could name more than 5 member of the PLP.
 
Not really. I mean, I personally think Progress in an entyrist party-within-a-party and that some of the hysterics shown by members of Labour First resembles the kind of "End is Nigh" that is eerily similar to Heaven's Gate, but on a national scale, the word "cult" has been thrown more AT Jeremy's supporters than by them.



So you didn't have the balls. Colour me unsurprised.

I must be brave if I could name someone though - considering the ramifications if I did.
 
It's not 'lefties', it's cultists.

There are people in my CLP who believe that the Corbyn/McDonnell economic model is laughably and fatally compromised by its acceptance of neo-liberalism, but who in the same breath would tell you that Corbyn is an unmitigated disaster, and that they will find themselves in an impossible position come the next election as they will not, on the evidence so far, be able in good conscience to cast a vote to make Corbyn PM.

did that makes sense when you were typing it ?
 
I must be brave if I could name someone though - considering the ramifications if I did.

given that a mighty, unassailable, glistening 14% of the electorate think that Corbyn would make the better PM rather than May (48%), surely the question has got to be 'who could do worse than Corbyn?'

err... Diane Abbott?

McDonnell, despite his abrasive personality and similar history/baggage to Corbyn, would be a far better choice purely by dint of being able to tie his own shoelaces. there must be at least another 20 within the current PLP who come from a similar social democratic mould who can a) think on their feet, b) have a conversation with a potential minister/shadow minister in order to ascertain whether their views/priorities on the subject area broadly mesh with the leaders own*, and c) appear on the front page of a newspaper without being flanked by members of the IRA or Hamas.

*yes, thats right, the Great One managed to appoint a Shadow Defence secretary without making any effort to discover their views on NATO or nuclear weapons. in fact, given that he's on his fourth Shadow Defence secretary in 18 months, it looks like he managed to appoint four SDS without having a single conversation with any of them...
 
Who could do better than Corbyn is a pretty empty question ATM anyway - anyone on the left of the party wouldn't get on the ballot under current rules so he's stuck there until he gets sick of it and throws in the towel, or his support among the members drops enough that a challenge would actually succeed (which tbh I think might not be that far off). Or until there's a rule change so the bar to entry is lower - I'm doubtful whether this will happen though, and Watson's maneuvering this weekend was at least partly aimed at heading this off.
 
The balls? The knowledge more like - I doubt I could name more than 5 member of the PLP.

Do you often talk about things of which you know nothing?

I must be brave if I could name someone though - considering the ramifications if I did.

And yet you hesitate.

given that a mighty, unassailable, glistening 14% of the electorate think that Corbyn would make the better PM rather than May (48%), surely the question has got to be 'who could do worse than Corbyn?'

And neither will you ventue one name from the whole PLP. Why is that?

Who could do better than Corbyn is a pretty empty question ATM anyway

I am sure that you would like members to accept that were so, but it really isn't to the people that you are trying to persuade to stop supporting Jeremy.

or his support among the members drops enough that a challenge would actually succeed (which tbh I think might not be that far off). Or until there's a rule change so the bar to entry is lower - I'm doubtful whether this will happen though, and Watson's maneuvering this weekend was at least partly aimed at heading this off.

So you are hoping for a drop in membership in the hundreds of thousands and conragulating Watson for his attempte to disenfranchise members of your own party. Maybe the word "cult" is a misspelling..
 
Again, you seem to be reading an awful lot into my posts. What angle do you think I'm coming from here? Do you ever read anything in the context of who posted it, or is it just some kind of stimulus/response thing once you see anything that could be seen as mildly critical of Corbyn?
 
Do you often talk about things of which you know nothing?



And yet you hesitate.



And neither will you ventue one name from the whole PLP. Why is that?



I am sure that you would like members to accept that were so, but it really isn't to the people that you are trying to persuade to stop supporting Jeremy.



So you are hoping for a drop in membership in hundreds of thousands and conragulating Watson for his attempte to disenfranchise members of your own party. Maybe the word "cult" is a misspelling..

If you think Jeremy Corbyn is doing the best job then congratulations agent tory government.
 
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