Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[DotCommunist]

the one who definitely doesn't pay sex workers to flog him while dressed as SS?

 

[Pickman's model]

I was just joking, I'm not a member of the party so didn't look at that, if it's meant for non-members it doesn't really immediately seem to fit into my idea of community based organising/action so wouldn't personally pursue it, not so much that labour party policy is devoid of value but that it won't be affected by this forum (or at least there are other things we could be doing that would have a greater effect, since this doesn't look like it puts pressure on capital, but then I've not looked at it beyond what it would appear to be from treelovers post).

doesn't matter. anyone who has some input into labour policy, no matter how minor, is working as they are being exploited.

 

[mikey mikey]

the one who definitely doesn't pay sex workers to flog him while dressed as SS?

Yep. Definitely that one and he oh so definitely doesn't have Nazi fetish. Alistair Campbell interviewed him in GQ a couple of years ago and Max said his father, Oswald Mosley, was not an anti-Semite either. Alistair never challenged him on that.

Max Mosley is not Hitler's son

 

[Wilf]

Tom Watson given £500k in donations by Max Mosley in past year

Max Mosley, son of fascist Oswald Mosely and one-time memeber of the Tory Party.

This is a man who was involved in counter-protesting an anti-apartheid rally.

And also the Union Movement, less explicitly fascist, but nonetheless his father's next political excursion after the BUF.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yep. Definitely that one and he oh so definitely doesn't have Nazi fetish. Alistair Campbell interviewed him in GQ a couple of years ago and Max said his father, Oswald Mosely, was not an anti-Semite either. Alistair never challenged him on that.

Max Mosley is not Hitler's son

mosley

surely you can spell hitler and mussolini so why problems with mosley?

 

[mikey mikey]

Tom Watson and Tony Ward sharing biscuits.

Imagine if Corbyn had tweeted about biscuits.
Hang on, we don't have to. Matt Chorley has made it all up for us.
No wonder Labour’s in a jam with a leader who is bananas about food

 

[treelover]

Watson makes himself look ridiculous in all this, though he's clearly got the press lined up to recycle his nonsense (shocked I tell ya, part 94, etc.). I'm not a great fan of Lansman, but what he said was just what any inter party grouping says in pretty much any party. He even said all the right things about 'not purging anyone', probably aware that his comments would get out to the press. However, admittedly I'm a broken record on this, it's more shocking that Momentum are only now getting round to thinking about getting control of and making changes in the party.

Its alright for Progress to be funded by a Sainsbury though, to have its own board, journal, etc.

 

[Pickman's model]

Its alright for Progress to be funded by a Sainsbury though, to have its own board, journal, etc.

strange you think that.

 

[treelover]

Tom Watson given £500k in donations by Max Mosley in past year

Max Mosley, son of fascist Oswald Mosely and one-time memeber of the Tory Party.

This is a man who was involved in counter-protesting an anti-apartheid rally.

No fan of Mosley, but that was in his youth, afaik.

 

[Pickman's model]

No fan of Mosley, but that was in his youth, afaik.

it's not going to be in his auld age is it. why is it better if he shows his colours when he's young?

 

[treelover]

Because people can change, you were once a public school educated pedantic prig, but of course you changed.

 

[mikey mikey]

No fan of Mosley, but that was in his youth, afaik.

Oh yeah. You're allowed that excuse if you are on the right. Everyone left of Owen Smith gets no such luck.

 

[B.I.G]

yeh cos for example monkey chants at players are a thing of the past by objecting to kick racism out of football you are objectively *supporting* racism in football.

I forgot about you, but I love the fact that this is the opposite to what I said

 

[Pickman's model]

I forgot about you, but I love the fact that this is the opposite to what I said

 

[Pickman's model]

I forgot about you, but I love the fact that this is the opposite to what I said

post 16323 snipped for posterity above.

it's not the opposite of what you said, you were asked "do you oppose kick racism out of football?" and you said "of course".

 

[B.I.G]

post 16323 snipped for posterity above.

it's not the opposite of what you said, you were asked "do you oppose kick racism out of football?" and you said "of course".

Sarcasm perhaps if you actually went to football you would know more about it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Sarcasm perhaps if you actually went to football you would know more about it.

tbh i don't believe you, given your previous pronouncements on similar subjects. in any case, it's not "the opposite of what [you] said".

 

[B.I.G]

tbh i don't believe you, given your previous pronouncements on similar subjects. in any case, it's not "the opposite of what [you] said".

No surprise you are so literal surprised you aren't commenting on what I wrote rather than said.

Luckily i dont care about what you think. So good times.

 

[mikey mikey]

Which also offers Watson the opportunity to interfere with Unite's leadership election.

So it turns out Watson was being deliberately misleading.

Didn't he have something to say about fake news?

 

[Pickman's model]

No surprise you are so literal surprised you aren't commenting on what I wrote rather than said.

Luckily i dont care about what you think. So good times.

yeh. well, you go on thinking that while everyone else thinks you're a right-wing shit with a dubious line on racism and fascism. there are ways to indicate sarcasm here (e.g. ) - the way you fall back on sarcasm after being caught out shows you didn't intend sarcasm at all.

 

[B.I.G]

yeh. well, you go on thinking that while everyone else thinks you're a right-wing shit with a dubious line on racism and fascism. there are ways to indicate sarcasm here (e.g. ) - the way you fall back on sarcasm after being caught out shows you didn't intend sarcasm at all.

Not people on the internet. Oh no.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not people on the internet. Oh no.

i don't suppose people off the internet have a better impression of you, tbh.

 

[B.I.G]

i don't suppose people off the internet have a better impression of you, tbh.

Do people off the internet think you are a political fantasist that spends his hours typing up crap on a forum dawn to dusk?

 

[Pickman's model]

Do people off the internet think you are a political fantasist that spends his hours typing up crap on a forum dawn to dusk?

you do, obviously. but then you're long on lying and terse on truth, so i can't say i give a monkey's for your opinion.

 

[treelover]

Lansmann has largely got rid of the Trots, does that mean Watson won't even tolerate radicals, democratic socialists, independent minded people who make up what is left.

 

[B.I.G]

you do, obviously. but then you're long on lying and terse on truth, so i can't say i give a monkey's for your opinion.

Luckily my life is lived off line and yours is not - so we are both in our natural environment.

 

[Pickman's model]

Luckily my life is lived off line and yours is not - so we are both in our natural environment.

i am at work. you, from the sounds of it, are not. so i am effectively getting paid for this. however, if you think posting here is less valuable than other things you do, what the fuck are you doing posing here?

 

[Mr Moose]

Lansmann has largely got rid of the Trots...

I had the Trots once on holiday so I can see why he would.

 

[B.I.G]

i am at work. you, from the sounds of it, are not. so i am effectively getting paid for this. however, if you think posting here is less valuable than other things you do, what the fuck are you doing posing here?

Posting here is as valuable as the things I do offline maybe even more so. Its just that its not the only thing I do. I don't do very much mind you.

I just feel bad that you constantly have to reply to my posts even when not directed at you. God knows no one has the time to do likewise to you.

 

[agricola]

I had the Trots once on holiday so I can see why he would.

the very opposite of entryism