Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[mikey mikey]

I have a straight question for you which tbh if you won't answer I won't continue this conversation: Do you want social democratic government or are you only interested in electing Labour regardless of the policies they follow?

Very, very good question.

 

[B.I.G]

Non-fantasists on the left tend to want the most socially democratic government that is achievable.

 

[BigTom]

Er it is work as you are being exploited - your opinion is the commodity.

The giving of said opinion will produce nothing of value, therefore there can be no surplus value to be exploited.

 

[brogdale]

Non-fantasists on the left tend to want the most socially democratic government that is achievable.

"Achievable" as in permitted?

 

[brogdale]

The giving of said opinion will produce nothing of value, therefore there can be no surplus value to be exploited.

Platform capitalism says otherwise.

 

[B.I.G]

"Achievable" as in permitted?

Achievable as in elected. Or non-elected if you think a coup is achievable or desirable.

 

[brogdale]

Achievable as in elected. Or non-elected if you think a coup is achievable or desirable.

Oh, so you're saying Corbyn's social democratic policy programme is too extreme, then?

 

[B.I.G]

Oh, so you're saying Corbyn's social democratic policy programme is too extreme, then?

No. He's not getting elected though so he might as well go a bit lefter, bit righter, who cares, right? Right????

 

[teqniq]

So apparently the problem is Momentum according to Watson, no mention of Progress. Why am I not surprised?

Tom Watson will tell Jeremy Corbyn Labour will die if he doesn't act now

 

[brogdale]

No. He's not getting elected though so he might as well go a bit lefter, bit righter, who cares, right? Right????

No fucking idea what you're prattling about tbh.

 

[B.I.G]

No fucking idea what you're prattling about tbh.

Ha! The uselessness of Corbyn and the fantasy that a social democratic government will be elected in right wing England.

And of course the fantasists the deny this.

Pretty much is the subject of the prattling. Classic brogdale banter

 

[YouSir]

Non-fantasists on the left tend to want the most socially democratic government that is achievable.

Presumably as defined by the loudest of the 'moderate' right voices?

 

[brogdale]

Ha! The uselessness of Corbyn and the fantasy that a social democratic government will be elected in right wing England.

And of course the fantasists the deny this.

Pretty much is the subject of the prattling. Classic brogdale banter

I see. You're a revolutionary, then?

 

[B.I.G]

Presumably as defined by the loudest of the 'moderate' right voices?

Defined by an election of people on their platforms. Obv.

 

[B.I.G]

I see. You're a revolutionary, then?

Not really anything apart from occasional poster on this forum.

 

[mikey mikey]

Achievable as in elected. Or non-elected if you think a coup is achievable or desirable.

Oh, so you're saying Corbyn's social democratic policy programme is too extreme, then?

No.

So you would keep the sanme policies but change to a more "electable" leader?

 

[YouSir]

Defined by an election of people on their platforms. Obv.

So what aspect of Corbyn's platform are you against? Would a different leader saying the same thing be ok?

 

[redsquirrel]

Seriously guys not worth bothering with this anti-union prick. He's just going to spout a whole load of non-sequiturs and bullshit.

 

[YouSir]

Seriously guys not worth bothering with this anti-union prick. He's just going to spout a whole load of non-sequiturs and bullshit.

I'm in the Labour Party, if I let that stop me I'd never say anything.

In fact I seldom do say anything, hmmh.

 

[brogdale]

Not really anything apart from occasional poster on this forum.

 

[Pickman's model]

The giving of said opinion will produce nothing of value, therefore there can be no surplus value to be exploited.

what you seem to be saying is that labour party policy is devoid of value. but what if the people standing on it get elected and get paid for their elective office? what then?

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm in the Labour Party

didn't know you were mates with the likes of mikey mikey (((yousir)))

 

[B.I.G]

So what aspect of Corbyn's platform are you against? Would a different leader saying the same thing be ok?

There's no answer to this question, which is why it gets asked so much on this thread. England is right wing so everything on the left is just tinkering.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not really anything apart from occasional poster on this forum.

and an anti-union and anti-anti-fascist wanker.

 

[YouSir]

There's no answer to this question, which is why it gets asked so much on this thread. England is right wing so everything on the left is just tinkering.

There's no answer to which part of his platform your against?

 

[B.I.G]

and an anti-union and anti-anti-fascist wanker.

Not exactly true but you know. Classic Pickers.

 

[YouSir]

didn't know you were mates with the likes of mikey mikey (((yousir)))

Can't comment on mikey mikey but it's a broad church as they say and some of us are standing across are stuck out in the car park.

 

[Pickman's model]

Can't comment on mikey mikey but it's a broad church as they say and some of us are standing across are stuck out in the car park.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not exactly true but you know. Classic Pickers.

go on, what's your truth then?

you were very vocal in your opposition to dhfc getting involved with even the mildest forms of anti-fascism and your views on unions are of course on record here too.

 

[B.I.G]

go on, what's your truth then?

you were very vocal in your opposition to dhfc getting involved with even the mildest forms of anti-fascism and your views on unions are of course on record here too.

Just cos its you and hopefully for the last time.

I'm not anti-union. I'd be happy to join one.

I have some issues with the way some of the organisations and individuals act and have acted in the past.

And I would rather DHFC as a football club did not hold an official anti-fascist stance.

Oh! The controversy!