Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[hash tag]

It's not like labour have a majority and it will change anything Labour MP Tulip Siddiq resigns from frontbench over article 50 vote

 

[gosub]

Probably best to wait to find out Lewis' actual position before assuming this isn't it?

Clive Lewis Bottles It - Guido Fawkes

 

[Pickman's model]

It's not like labour have a majority and it will change anything Labour MP Tulip Siddiq resigns from frontbench over article 50 vote

Another party heavyweight departs

 

[hash tag]

I am not sure they can afford any departures. What's really needed is unity.

 

[Wilf]

I am not sure they can afford any departures. What's really needed is unity.

There's no unity to be had.

 

[killer b]

Clive Lewis Bottles It - Guido Fawkes

I'm not reading Guido. Is there anything extra beyond what all the other outlets are reporting?

 

[Argonia]

Considering that his time is meant to be up this has spawned a remarkable number of responses. Nearly 500 pages.

 

[kebabking]

if Corbyn loses half a dozen from his SC over this - though i've no idea what any of these people think they'll be achieving, its not as if they're going to block Brexit - are there any MP's left to fill their shoes from the pool who'll work for him?

 

[DotCommunist]

There's no unity to be had.

the centre cannot hold while a rough beast, its hour come at last, has slouched towards washington to be born

 

[Supine]

Considering that his time is meant to be up this has spawned a remarkable number of responses. Nearly 500 pages.

It is a slow and painful death

 

[Old Spark]

Kate Hoeys free.

 

[Old Spark]

Or Gisela Stuart.

John Mann

Dave Stringer

Frank Field

Denis Skinner

 

[Pickman's model]

Kate Hoeys free.

auld hunter hoey

 

[Casually Red]

The media seem to be having a massive dig at him over this gaffe

Jeremy Corbyn criticised for Northern Ireland 'dead' police officer gaffe

Not exactly a nuclear missile going astray over the US coast type of thing but it's all over a lot of front pages .

 

[Wilf]

The media seem to be having a massive dig at him over this gaffe

Jeremy Corbyn criticised for Northern Ireland 'dead' police officer gaffe

Not exactly a nuclear missile going astray over the US coast type of thing but it's all over a lot of front pages .

 

[Casually Red]

An horrendous blunder and pretty inexcusable .

Corbyns mistake however was just a bit silly .

 

[cantsin]

Probably best to wait to find out Lewis' actual position before assuming this isn't it?

fair do's , seems it he's actually supporting the vote initially, whilst reserving right to oppose at later stages of of bill

 

[Old Spark]

if Corbyn loses half a dozen from his SC over this - though i've no idea what any of these people think they'll be achieving, its not as if they're going to block Brexit - are there any MP's left to fill their shoes from the pool who'll work for him?

Some will be calculating that it will help them keep their seats.Siddiq is a case in point -hampstead is highly marginal against the tories but with a large potential libdem vote so its as much about self preservation as principle.Not sure about boundary proposals in her case (update -looked it up ,her new constituency would inc 7 wards from her current seat,2 from finchley(thatchers old seat and one from holborn and st pancras)..
The interesting ones are those whose vote doesnt help them in their constituencies.And there a few tories in that list as well as labour.


Update tonight's yougov has london -tories 42,lab 22 libdem 20

 

[William of Walworth]

What only some contributions have been emphasising in these recent pages, is not just how split Labour is, but how split the electorate** is ...

**Wanted to say : 'the fucking electorate'. Best not

 

[Old Spark]

What only some contributions have been emphasising in these recent pages, is not just how split Labour is, but how split the electorate** is ...

Yes splits everywhere -bound to get much worse.52-48 was a very close result .

Grassroots Labour supporters revolt against Jeremy Corbyn over Brexit

 

[kebabking]

I must admit, I think a sizable proportion of my local CLP have lost their minds...

I just don't get this attitude that the referendum result can be ignored or overturned - like many, most probably, I voted to remain, but I accept the result as legitimate, and in a narrower political way I can only imagine the impact on political stability if a popular vote were to be ignored by a political class already perceived as being divorced from wider society.

I just don't get the logic of it, either in a philosophical sense or in a electoral sense...

 

[mojo pixy]

It smells quite a lot like entitlement, frankly. I also voted Remain, but I also accept that what happened happened. I just wish the fucking tories weren't in power for this, it's like the worst of all possible worlds.

 

[mojo pixy]

I'm beginning to think that Corbyn should quit, but he should call the whole party wankers in his resignation speech in the House. Fuck you all, he should say, You deserve everything you get. You're that. Then wave his curled-up fingers in a cursory wank gesture and stride out.

But *sigh* he won't.

 

[Old Spark]

I must admit, I think a sizable proportion of my local CLP have lost their minds...

I just don't get this attitude that the referendum result can be ignored or overturned - like many, most probably, I voted to remain, but I accept the result as legitimate, and in a narrower political way I can only imagine the impact on political stability if a popular vote were to be ignored by a political class already perceived as being divorced from wider society.

I just don't get the logic of it, either in a philosophical sense or in a electoral sense...

To use a Trumpism -its not very smart.But JC has seen the polling and knows what he has to do.Watson has done the old buy british tonight and said brexit wlll free us from EU restrictions on state aid.You just have to grit your teeth and say these things .

 

[newbie]

I must admit, I think a sizable proportion of my local CLP have lost their minds...

I just don't get this attitude that the referendum result can be ignored or overturned - like many, most probably, I voted to remain, but I accept the result as legitimate, and in a narrower political way I can only imagine the impact on political stability if a popular vote were to be ignored by a political class already perceived as being divorced from wider society.

I just don't get the logic of it, either in a philosophical sense or in a electoral sense...

In the last general election the manifestos of the majority of winning candidates supported the EU. Since then the ref has given a popular mandate to leave. May has no mandate whatsoever for her negotiating stance. Rolling over and endorsing her every move at this stage is neither opposition nor holding the government to account. A strong and resourceful politician could articulate policy which is both yet falls short of trying to overturn the ref.

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm beginning to think that Corbyn should quit, but he should call the whole party wankers in his resignation speech in the House. Fuck you all, he should say, You deserve everything you get. You're that. Then wave his curled-up fingers in a cursory wank gesture and stride out.

But *sigh* he won't.

you'd need a crowbar to turf him out of the house at thise point

 

[Old Spark]

In the last general election the manifestos of the majority of winning candidates supported the EU. Since then the ref has given a popular mandate to leave. May has no mandate whatsoever for her negotiating stance. Rolling over and endorsing her every move at this stage is neither opposition nor holding the government to account. A strong and resourceful politician could articulate policy which is both yet falls short of trying to overturn the ref.

But this is not the vote to do it on. On the deal for exit and the great repeal bill thats the time to do it.This just looks like waiving two fingers.

 

[J Ed]

Corbyn calling for Trump to be banned from the UK until visa restrictions are lifted is really smart politics.

 

[redsquirrel]

Farron deciding to follow suit after first quibbling

 

[J Ed]

I have to say that I am not particularly bothered about this aspect of the visit