littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Probably. He was a Tory, after all.
Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Well what did you mean?
you've been coming out with some pretty odd stuff this evening that i was surprised at. What do you think israel's role in this is?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I'm not entirely convinced that Abbott, speaking about immigration, counter-terrorism and crime, is going to win many hearts in either Labours traditional working class heartlands that voted for BREXIT or indeed in the currently Tory voting swing constituencies in the Midlands.
He had to give her one of the big three jobs, Treasury is taken by John McDonnell who isn't going anywhere, and she'd be even worse at shadow FCO than she would as shadow HO.
I think she's an effective politician when measured within a fairly narrow set of constraints - audience and issue - but I get the feeling that she is widely disliked by the electorate at large...
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Then you underestimated how severely Israel views the BDS movement.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
What are you desperately going to try and misrepresent next?
James McFadden
if it moves, look at it
That's why it's fuckin ridiculous. He was on a rising thermal after the conference and a half competent speech. Why pull a stunt like Abbott? He knows he's a corpse?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
You're saying that israel has a role in all this labour stuff. So what role is that then?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I think you have a point about that - given the things she'll be talking about. But, shadow FCO, why not? It's not as if Foreign Secretary actually does much nowadays. I'd love to think that she has some ideas about reforming our judicial and prison systems and was bursting to do the job. I'd love to thing that...
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Another election Corbyn "walked".
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Perhaps, though I have a very hard time believing that the Israeli government would devote significant resources to a fight that everyone on "its" side are taking part in anyway, for free.
James McFadden
if it moves, look at it
Short of any feline DNA, I think you're probably safe.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
oh ffs. I've been hearing this loads from all quarters. Corbyn didn't call that referendum, didn't call for it, didn't want it. Nearly two thirds of labour voters voted remain, about the same as SNP voters. Nobody's banging on about how Sturgeon lost the referendum.
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Well, her first job after Cambridge was as a Home Office trainee, and then NCCL so there's some history I guess.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
It has a serious vested interest in undermining a Corbyn regime. They know he'll accelerate BDS. What strings are being pulled, stories being placed, people being monitored, we will never know but this partly Regev's job... to influence the UK for Israel's gain overtly or covertly.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Be specific.
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
You said he walked every vote.
Did you mean every vote that included a large number of his supporters only or every vote he participated in?
Lets find out what counts as a "walk".
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
He loved a party with a happy Atmosphere. Or was that Russ Abbott?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
That wasn't an election. It was a referendum. Corbyn wasn't standing in an election.
bemused
Well-Known Member
blimey ....
bemused
Well-Known Member
There is an irony that the same people who claim he is unelectable are the ones blaming him for not getting the vote out in the referendum.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
She's also a walking talking gaffe machine. I think we are all agreed a single week without a Labour gaffe would be a triumph.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
remind me to do a 'he's lost control again' gag when the maquis stand another challenger
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
So his defeats in the two national elections he has been involved in are not actual elections because he was not on the ballot.
Basically he wins when his fan alone club get to to vote for him.
Looking good for 2020.
bimble
floofy
I'm much confused, please bear with me.
Please kindly indicate where you have stated the opposite ?
I thought that you were of the opinion that mark Regev (arsewipe that he is) has had a significant hand in secretly instigating all of this latest stuff re Walker.
bemused
Well-Known Member
This is the person that made Michael Portillo look human. The reason Abbott is unlikable is because she is such a poor communicator, Rudd is going to get a very easy ride.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Where have I mentioned Walker? Please retract that statement.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Its the job of every ambassador to influence the country they are posted to for their home country's gain, though.
As for the rest, all of that is (and would be) taking place anyway because the PLP maquis are trying to get rid of Corbyn. I am not sure it makes that much sense to suggest those activities are taking place at the behest of a foreign government because of a policy it dislikes, when there are abundantly obvious domestic reasons for it taking place.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Regev's job would be to nudge the controversies in the direction that benefits Israel.
bimble
floofy
You never did mention her.
You just said, yesterday,
Nothing specifically to do with the most recent story, so yeah, you were probably talking about Livingstone or something . I totally retract my statement.
James McFadden
if it moves, look at it
That definitely sounds like a sound course for an Israeli ambassador.
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