Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Me too. It never seems to stop real conspiracy theorists oddly enough.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
keep to structural analysis and never mention the List I recon
timeforanother
Cynic, and loves it when people are just lovely.
Guido used to be a eugenicist. I moved in the same circles (meaning parties and mutual acquaintances) as a teenager.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Please do expand on that.
timeforanother
Cynic, and loves it when people are just lovely.
I was told that by friends who looked disgusted by it, I think it was the stupid he looked down on most. He was an arrogant shit.
The phrase 'conspiracy theorist' is a pejorative designed to shut down legitimate enquiry - it's designed like that. And it gets us self-censoring, as you say. I suggest ignoring all that.
After all what is in Nexus years ago might be in yesterday's Europhysics News
Cid
Proper break this time
Warning: link is to a direct PDF download of yet more bollocks about 9/11 controlled demolition.
timeforanother
Cynic, and loves it when people are just lovely.
To get more contentious, athe only real antisemitism I have seen recently is from Muslims. Not IS, or from very political types. I don't know how common it is, my Muslim or from that background friends and coleagues don't think like that.
The Momentum woman was stupid to say what she did after the rest of the fuss, which I think was mostly a smear.
Not taking the 'correct' line on an issue from a perspective of giving a shit about even more victims might be clumsy, but it isn't racist.
It is bizarre to think you can't critisise Israel without being considered antisemitic. That is not a 'trope'.
I think it was nino_savatte who asked if anyone has brought up "self haters" as a concept. I did, but just to say I hadn't seen it used yet, but maybe I'm not getting out enough. It has been used to attack Jews in favour of Palastinian rights for decades.
The Momentum woman was stupid to say what she did after the rest of the fuss, which I think was mostly a smear.
Not taking the 'correct' line on an issue from a perspective of giving a shit about even more victims might be clumsy, but it isn't racist.
It is bizarre to think you can't critisise Israel without being considered antisemitic. That is not a 'trope'.
I think it was nino_savatte who asked if anyone has brought up "self haters" as a concept. I did, but just to say I hadn't seen it used yet, but maybe I'm not getting out enough. It has been used to attack Jews in favour of Palastinian rights for decades.
Well the 'bollocks' you refer to is published in Europhysics News which is a pretty serious scientific publication.
Cid
Proper break this time
Argued with conspiracy theorists enough in my time and you have a track record, anyone who wants the actual truth can do a bit a of googling. You can fuck off.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
timeforanother
Cynic, and loves it when people are just lovely.
Cid
Proper break this time
No, I'm suggesting you fuck off.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Lol.
Yes - the science here is only concerned with how, and not who. It is clearly not the place of Europhysics News to endorse any theories as to who.
Absolutely!
Errrr, no thanks.
ManchesterBeth
Well-Known Member
Which muslims, who? Give us some examples, even if anecdotally.
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
Bollocks.
That article is a mishmash of nitpicking, speculation and whataboutery. It offers nothing conclusive and the publisher has added a disclaimer at the start.
bimble
floofy
I didn't know but looks like there's a long history of people claiming that Jews were chief financiers of the slave trade and should carry a special guilt for it. It has no basis in fact at all but it's been said a lot over the years, mostly by people like David Duke and on unashamedly fascist type websites, or specialist sites like 'jew watch'.
Far as I can see it's either ok to repeat that sort of claim or it's not ok.
If it's not ok when white supremacists say it, then we really do live in strange times when so many people are willing to argue that its totally different when Jackie Walker makes the same mistake.
Far as I can see it's either ok to repeat that sort of claim or it's not ok.
If it's not ok when white supremacists say it, then we really do live in strange times when so many people are willing to argue that its totally different when Jackie Walker makes the same mistake.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
You know, the fact that scientific publications might have the integrity to publish a "dissenting view" (and think about how your average 9/11 troofer treats views that dissent from their narrative) does not automatically mean it's scientifically valid. Anyone going from "published into a scientific journal" to "must therefore be true" is demonstrating an appalling degree of naivety.
Not to mention that this is a rather classic example of the way in which the "truther" movement is very, very happy to cherrypick its sources - Big Science is bad, corporate, and trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the sheeple most of the time...but then it does something which the conspiraloon tendency can drag in as part of its scattershot argument, and all of a sudden, it's "Hey, but it's science!".
See also creationism.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
He missed an opportunity there: that police van is (badly) parked on a double yellow line. He should have whipped out his Freeman on the Land non-Birth Certificate, and made a citizen's arrest of the 5 coppers arresting him. Tsk. I'm sure there must be some 1348 law about tying your sheep to bollards that could have been unrecognisably bent and twisted to suit the purpose.This is what happens to troofers in these parts boy -
alsoknownas
some bloke
Can't make a citizen's arrest if you renounce the validity of citizenship itself. Or do they just make it up as they go along?
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