Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[billy_bob]

whither now cambell? whither now mandelson? only lesser men remain, weep, weep for the dying of the blairite project

It's like when Pixies released Trompe le Monde.

Except I always rather liked Trompe le Monde, even if most people think it's a poor shadow of their former glory.

It's like if Pixies had released Trompe le Monde, and it was actually Toploader's second album note for note.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Angela Eagle puts Labour leadership on temporary hold for last-ditch unions move



Breathe everyone... Angela is letting Tom handle it, for now.

Again? She puts more things on hold than Virgin customer services.

 

[Lord Camomile]

It's like if Pixies had released Trompe le Monde, and it was actually Toploader's second album note for note.

Yeah, it's fair to say Magic Hotel didn't capture the same, well, magic as Onka's Big Mocha.

But let's not judge them too harshly for that, it's basically like trying to follow up the Pet Sounds of the 90s.

 

[rutabowa]

I can't remember who I voted for deputy in the labour leadership thing... it definitely wasn't tom watson as someone on here said not to, I've got the feeling it was angela eagle.

 

[Rimbaud]

One MP says it’s a question of supply and demand: “There is clearly a market for a new party of the centre left because there are so many people who feel they have no one to vote for. Labour is veering to the left and the Tories to the right so that leaves a gap.”

A former Downing Street adviser argues that it will be impossible for moderates to win back control of the Labour Party because the membership is likely to remain dominated by leftwingers. The trade unions, which were once a force for moderation, have become part of the problem, encouraging the drift to the left. In his view: “Nobody wants a new party for the sake of it but it’s starting to look inevitable.”

Already, potential donors who could support such a venture are being discussed. “Money would not be a problem. You would need £8 million and you could raise that in a week,” says one of those involved behind the scenes. “If Corbyn stays then we have another organisation that isn’t called the Labour Party. That gets exciting because it doesn’t have all the baggage, the links to the unions; you could create a new constitution and policy programme. There’s a massive opportunity for a pro-business, socially liberal party in favour of the EU.”

Fucking hell they really haven't a clue have they? Projected vote share for their new party: 2%, if they're lucky and turn-out is low.
And who the fuck have they been talking to to think there's a market for a new "centrist" party? I haven't heard anyone ever say they wish there was some party occupying the middle ground between Tories and Labour and Lib Dems to vote for, ever, because that would be an incredibly dense thing to say. Absolutely incredible insight into their weird world.

 

[free spirit]

ah, now that's something I'd been wondering about on the timing. They wanted to get this done before the NEC swung towards Corbyn.

BBC just put it currently at 16 NEC members as Corbyn supporters and 17 against, so if that were to swap around then presumably there is then potential for the NEC to start to act against those who're briefing against Corbyn.

I'm assuming that briefing against the party leader and the party itself is in some way in breach of party rules.

 

[butchersapron]

It used to be compulsory.

 

[billy_bob]

Yeah, it's fair to say Magic Hotel didn't capture the same, well, magic as Onka's Big Mocha.

But let's not judge them too harshly for that, it's basically like trying to follow up the Pet Sounds of the 90s.

Tenner says you had to google both of them.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Tenner says you had to google both of them.

Had to check Magic Hotel, Onka's Big Mocha is seared onto my heart

 

[treelover]

Now we have "Corbyn is paranoid". This article from The [distorted] Mirror is straight out of the "Let's undermine Harold Wilson" playbook.
Labour staffers blow the lid on life inside Jeremy Corbyn's 'paranoid' HQ

Sadly, we are seeing(after a wonderful but brief hiatus) the return of Maxwell era Daily Mirror.

btw, did anyone go to the 'Meet The Mirror' tours in the 80's, i met and talked to Paul Foot on one, he seemed pretty sound.

 

[19force8]

Tessa Jowell on Daily Politics:

"Angela Eagle faced homophobic abuse at her recent constituency meeting."

Really?

Then:

"It is the purpose of Jeremy Corbyn's life mission to denounce Tony Blair as a war criminal tomorrow."

So there it is.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

"It is the purpose of Jeremy Corbyn's life mission to denounce Tony Blair as a war criminal tomorrow."

He was well ahead of the game on that one when he got elected in the early 80s wasn't he. Man with prescience like that should be Prime Minister or something.

 

[J Ed]

Alleging homophobia is a first in this whole ordeal isn't it?

 

[Artaxerxes]

Apologies if this has been posted.

 

[nino_savatte]

Angela Eagle puts Labour leadership on temporary hold for last-ditch unions move



Breathe everyone... Angela is letting Tom handle it, for now.

Eagle's become something of a running joke. The trouble is, she lacks to the self-awareness to realise it.

 

[billy_bob]

Alleging homophobia is a first in this whole ordeal isn't it?

Her leadership ambitions don't bother me. As long as she keeps them behind closed doors and doesn't shove them in our faces.

 

[binka]

Watson was meeting with the Union Barons this morning, guessing since there's been no news/leak to the contrary that they are supporting Brother Jeremy?

 

[charlie mowbray]

Not convinced this meeting actually took place

 

[Lord Camomile]

Apologies if this has been posted.

It has, but it's a fast moving thread.

The trouble with these quotes is all it does is tell us what we already know: politicians will say whatever's expedient at the time. I suppose it helps to actually present them with hard evidence that they're contradicting themselves into knots, but then they'll just twist further to squirm out of it.

 

[DotCommunist]

Watson was meeting with the Union Barons this morning, guessing since there's been no news/leak to the contrary that they are supporting Brother Jeremy?

he's giving len mcklusky a wedgie as we speak

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Apparently Angela and Owen are fighting it out over who is going to take Corbyn on...or not as the case maybe.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[J Ed]

Apparently AngelI and Owen are fighting it out over who is going to take Corbyn on...or not as the case maybe.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

I insist that you go first, no you... you are a great leader, oh but i am nothing compared to you etc

 

[nino_savatte]

Sadly, we are seeing(after a wonderful but brief hiatus) the return of Maxwell era Daily Mirror.

I'd say it's more Cecil King tbh.
Every Day is Like Sunday

 

[DaveCinzano]

MEANWHILE, AT PROGRESS H.Q...

 

[Louis MacNeice]

I insist that you go first, no you... you are a great leader, oh but i am nothing compared to you etc

Sounds about right. Of course all the while publically claiming that the other one is stopping them getting on with the difficult job that needs doing for the good of the country.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[treelover]

Tessa Jowell was on D/P ranting on about Militant and now Momentum as being wreckers, etc, then Rhea Wolfson cam on to defend JC, etc, she is as far from being a militant as you can get, its ridiculous, Jowell says she is not leaving, i have some time for Nandy, etc, but Blairites like her should leave the stage,

 

[treelover]

What is fascinating, though, is that a growing number of MPs, peers, candidates and advisers now believe that it is time to start again with a new party of the centre left. Three months ago it was seen as foolish, or even heretical, to suggest such a thing, but since the EU referendum the idea has become mainstream. The Brexit vote has changed everything, with a former cabinet minister talking of the exciting possibilities for a “party of the 48 per cent”.

from the Times article.

Very Revealing, finally a complete abandonment of the poorest areas, the left behind, etc.

just observed Sylvester is married to Patrick Wintour.

 

[treelover]

Fucking hell they really haven't a clue have they? Projected vote share for their new party: 2%, if they're lucky and turn-out is low.
And who the fuck have they been talking to to think there's a market for a new "centrist" party? I haven't heard anyone ever say they wish there was some party occupying the middle ground between Tories and Labour and Lib Dems to vote for, ever, because that would be an incredibly dense thing to say. Absolutely incredible insight into their weird world.

Yes, if anything divisions are hardening.

 

[DotCommunist]

Apparently Angela and Owen are fighting it out over who is going to take Corbyn on...or not as the case maybe.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

While watson ineptly waterboards the union barons. What a fine mess it is

 

[treelover]

Labour staffers blow the lid on life inside Jeremy Corbyn's 'paranoid' HQ

I can belive some of this if Milne is involved.