You mean Marxist-Leninism?
Is Reading Marx Necessary?
- Thread starter Toast Rider
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You mean Marxist-Leninism?
*yawn
how interesting please continue
how interesting please continue
That was what you meant.
Read some Marx. Chomsky is a twat.
I have read das capital .. it`s quite good but not essential in this day and age.
Chomsky is ace
Chomsky is ace
I have read das capital .. it`s quite good but not essential in this day and age.
Chomsky is ace
How does Chomsky improve on Capital? In fact how does any of his middle class sojourns aid proles more than Marx writings has?
Loads.
A: He is still alive(just)
B: He has inspired and been involved in direct action all his life.
C: He understands contemporary threats , like the PR industry.
A: He is still alive(just)
B: He has inspired and been involved in direct action all his life.
C: He understands contemporary threats , like the PR industry.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Uh huhI have read das capital .. it`s quite good but not essential in this day and age.
Chomsky is ace
Fozzie Bear
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This is such a crock of shit, come on people 
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Toast Rider just give it a go, I really enjoyed reading Marx personally.
.Toast Rider just give it a go, I really enjoyed reading Marx personally.
Ralph Llama is on the wind-up I think.
I will, just got to find a cheap copy of whatever is the easiest book to readThis is such a crock of shit, come on people
Toast Rider just give it a go, I really enjoyed reading Marx personally.
Fozzie Bear
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Wicked. There are a bunch online at marxists.org but to be honest your local library should be able to help too.
If you go for Capital, don't read all the intros and forewords. I did that about 15 years ago and fell asleep. Do check the David Harvey vids though.
Sorry, yes Toast Rider it is worth reading and is a very comprehensive study of Capitalism that will probably surprise you.
its Friday night
its Friday night
is that significant?Sorry, yes Toast Rider it is worth reading and is a very comprehensive study of Capitalism that will probably surprise you.
its Friday night
"oh yes it's Engels night, oh what a night"
It's more a case of reading stuff that explains how his ideas are true in the world.
I try to stay moderated.
Fozzie Bear
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Well what's good about Capital is that he starts with very simple ideas and then builds up from there, so you can jump off when you like... and again, David Harvey (I'm not on commission!) does explain in his interviews on Youtube and books like "Seventeen Contradictions of Capitalism" why Marx is still relevant.
seventh bullet
sovietwave
Marxism-Leninism, derivations of which had been adopted in varying circumstances as the guiding state-socialist ideologies of countries you've been bigging up.
yes i'm aware of David Harvey, peole have mentioned him. I just need a spare hour or three to get into it
I was arguing that revolutionary movements are a lot more spontaneous and intuitive ... take the Horizontalidad movement, there may have been groups battling the state before the revolution, but when it popped people took to organizing horizontally out of instinct.
Also, people had these notions before Marx. Many fairer societies have been achieved.
Yer. The Reading Broad St. branch apparently.
seventh bullet
sovietwave
You were talking about societies ruled by governments using adaptations of the very political and ideological formulations you have said you're against elswhere.
Cuba and Yugoslavia yes, but are you seriously suggesting that without Das Capital revolutions of a socialist nature would not be taking place?
seventh bullet
sovietwave
And Yugoslavia.
Where have I said anything of the sort?
I have merely been pointing out to you where you have been contradicting yourself.
It's embarrassing.
Where have I said anything of the sort?
I have merely been pointing out to you where you have been contradicting yourself.
It's embarrassing.
I said Yugoslavia 
Anyway revolutions work better ye old anarchist way. Marx`s transitional periods can spin on it.
Anyway revolutions work better ye old anarchist way. Marx`s transitional periods can spin on it.
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No. You and the rest of your arrogant tosser, ineffective fucking communists are embarrassing.
Anarchists : Shall we have a revolution
Commie: No we need a transitional period.
over and over again.
Fozzie Bear
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2/10
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Go back to yugoslavia commie.
