Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
The percentage of overweight and obese people isn't rising?
So what is really going on?
Johnny Vodka
Is obesity a disability?
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The percentage of overweight and obese people isn't rising?
So what is really going on?
Johnny Vodka
goldenecitrone
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The percentage of overweight and obese people isn't rising?
So what is really going on?
Johnny Vodka
Royal College of Physicians thinks there is an increasing problem.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
It's just a conspiracy to distract us from the REAL issues.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
goldenecitrone
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You might want to take that up with the World Health Organization.
http://www.who.int/dietphysicalactivity/media/en/gsfs_obesity.pdf
Wow, you can google 'epidemic' and 'obesity' on the WHO website. Very impressive.
goldenecitrone
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Every little helps.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
If only you'd do the decent thing and move on to the afterlife, Kenny, we wouldn't be blessed with your maggoty sax music or your intellectually-stunted screeds anymore.
Go on Kenny, do a Christ and die for our sins, eh? Oh, and take your saxophones with you. I'm sure that G-d would love to hear your version of "Freebird".
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Besides him avoiding replying to any of the salient points that Doctor Carrot and I made?
Not a lot.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Where does the increase come from, though?
We're sold (especially through the red-tops and the science-ignorant broadcast media) that this is solely attributable to a rise in weight in more people. What we're not told is that part of the rise is attributable to shifted goalposts (repeatedly over the last 2 decades) on the criteria for obesity categories. This shift has caused far more people to fall into "Obese" categories than would otherwise have been the case, including (as has been mentioned) fit frequent exercisers.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
If you look at footage from any periods separated by 3 decades, you'll find acute physiological differences. For the last hundred-ish years we've gotten taller decade on decade.
Specifically in the last 30-40 years, though, we've seen a massive surge in cheap processed food. I'm not talking junk food here, or even "ready meals" either, I'm talking about components of meals that are processed, and where even now, many shoppers don't expect to find the volume of added fats and sugars that render all their "5 a day" vegetablism useless.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
No need to; the WHO quite correctly write about obesity reaching epidemic proportions.
They do not write about there being an obesity epidemic.
They don't do so because being the WHO they know that there is a difference between epidemic the noun and epidemic the adjective; a difference which is apparently lost on you and JV.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
zippyRN
Orange, Fuzzy, and allowed to possess Cat As
I do think some people are confusing what it means for something to be covered by the Disability Discrimination provisions of the Equality Act etc and 'being disabled' .
most Chronic conditions can fall under the provisions especially when it comes to the workplace and the use or misuse of health and capability processes to try and get rid of someone becasue they are a 'fatty' or a 'nutter'
most Chronic conditions can fall under the provisions especially when it comes to the workplace and the use or misuse of health and capability processes to try and get rid of someone becasue they are a 'fatty' or a 'nutter'
SCIENCE
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
When I see photos of 30-40 year olds from back in the day (the 70s) looking thin and gaunt I wonder how much thats down to post war rationing. Which of course fell heaviest on the w/c.
My uncle was a rationing child. His skinniness is down to a brown habit though. He's quite obsessive over food still. Not the cooking really but the having it in the cupboards. Also a strong 'eat whats in front of you and like it' attitude. Even after all these years. Childhood malnutrition never really leaves you I suppose
goldenecitrone
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Clutching at grammatical straws there. An obesity epidemic clearly means the rapid growth or spread of obesity, not that obesity is a contagious disease. It means the same thing as obesity reaching epidemic proportions.
Part of scientific enquiry is based on observations..
zippyRN
Orange, Fuzzy, and allowed to possess Cat As
valid point there, the young adults of the 1970s were post war babies (and the parents / grandparents of many Urbanites )
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Besides him avoiding replying to any of the salient points that Doctor Carrot and I made?
Not a lot.
I'm busy with Xmas prep, Chief, so will need to go with a short response for now. I actually agree with a lot of what you and Doctor Carrot say with regards to food stuffs and society, and I think a lot needs to be done at a legislative level (short of banning certain foods). I acknowledge it is harder to make 'good choices' - however, I think for the majority of people there is still room for exercising personal responsibility when it comes to food intake and activity levels.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
No it's using words properly; which is why the WHO (knowing what an actual epidemic is in their role as health experts) used the accurate phrase 'reaching epidemic proportions' and not the incorrect 'obesity epidemic'. They do not mean the same thing, even if you and JV would lazily like them to.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
goldenecitrone
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They clearly do mean the same thing, to all but the most literal-minded pedants. What about a violent crime epidemic? Do you think that means that violent crime is an infectious disease, too?
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Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
For one so pedantic about language, I'd like to point out there's no need to sign off with your username. It's clearly visible to the left of your post.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Talking about a violent crime epidemic would also be wrong; it is not an epidemic. You could talk about violent crime reaching epidemic proportions if you wanted to comment on its scale; which as I have already pointed out is what the health experts at the WHO choose to do in relation to obesity.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
goldenecitrone
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Not according to the dictionary it isn't.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/epidemic
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
For one so pedantic about language, I'd like to point out there's no need to sign off with your username. It's clearly visible to the left of your post.
Using epidemic as you used it is not correct. Posting my user name at the end of my posts may be annoying, but it's not wrong; i.e. it doesn't convey inaccurate information.
Both you and goldencitrone could quite easily choose to use epidemic correctly...so why don't you...it's not difficult and it won't cost you anything, so why not just give it a go?
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
'violent crime epidemic' is a hysterical tabloid headline. An apt comparison.
goldenecitrone
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I am using it correctly, as any dictionary will tell you. Why do you have such a problem with the word?
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