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Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

Good opportunity to find common ground if people are up for crossing tribal divides. A lot of the ‘right’ share some common ideals with traditional left - see for example how UKIP supporters were once polled on railway renationalisation and were broadly in favour. The private healthcare industry in the US is indefensible.
Opinion on those subs mostly seemed to be that govt involvement and subsidies are what's wrong with the current US system and deregulating everything and leaving it fully in the hands of free markets is the answer...
 
Seth Abramson doesn't like Musk very much. In fact, he regards him as an enemy of humanity.
In this very long thread he outlines a list of alleged lies, flunking, failing up, thievery, violence, crazy talk and outright cultism, with links to more detail on his Substack. (He says he isn't shilling for PROOF, but most of the posts are paywalled.) I haven't checked out all the stories but some of it sounds unhinged.
He's going to get himself sued isn't he. And maybe it's a risk, even linking to him here.

 
Seth Abramson doesn't like Musk very much. In fact, he regards him as an enemy of humanity.
In this very long thread he outlines a list of alleged lies, flunking, failing up, thievery, violence, crazy talk and outright cultism, with links to more detail on his Substack. (He says he isn't shilling for PROOF, but most of the posts are paywalled.) I haven't checked out all the stories but some of it sounds unhinged.
He's going to get himself sued isn't he. And maybe it's a risk, even linking to him here.


I tried to read that thread but it’s unfortunately all over the place. Given that the author is an academic who presumably should know how to communicate, there’s a surprising lack of narrative. He assumes I know a lot of things that I don’t (like what Zip2 was) and he jumps around from nugget to nugget so that I got lost. It’s a shame because it seems like he has a lot of information to share that looks quite interesting.
 

Elon Musk’s trans daughter slams UK puberty blockers ban: ‘Horrifying to witness’​

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Vivian Wilson (R) previously called out her “absent” father Elon Musk (L) on Threads after he deadnamed and misgendered her.
Elon Musk has praised the UK’s decision to ban puberty blockers, calling those who agree with them “criminals” – but his trans daughter Vivian Jenna Wilson is not on board. In November 2024, following Donald Trump’s US election victory, Wilson said she was planning to leave the US. Writing on Threads, she said: “I’ve thought this for a while but yesterday confirmed it for me. I don’t see my future being in the United States. Even if he’s only in office for four years, even if the anti-trans regulations magically don’t happen, the people who willingly voted this in are not going anywhere anytime soon.” “I medically transitioned as a minor and have not regretted it for a moment. Most trans people could probably write you entire novels about the sheer horror that is gender dysphoria and the relief that comes with medical alleviation.”
 
This chaaaarming maaaaan

It appears that not everything is going his way:


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The killer and Musk are on the same side but Musk is too fucking stupid to realise that, so he's going to interfere with another election and try and put AfD in power.
The day before an AfD radicalised guy drives through a Christmas market

I've seen no claims off this board that the driver was an AfD supporter. All I've read is that he is a Saudi refugee, so rather atypical for the AfD.
 
I've seen no claims off this board that the driver was an AfD supporter. All I've read is that he is a Saudi refugee, so rather atypical for the AfD.
Andrew Neil on Twitter seems to confirm that the suspect is indeed an AfD and Musk supporter. I have my doubts about linking to both the platform and Neil, but hey ho!

 
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