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Is Brexit actually going to happen?

Will we have a brexit?


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either you trust the working class or you don't.
Are you up for starting a separate thread on this, expanding on the point "either you trust the working class or you don't."? So as not to derail this thread, and as this has come up before.
To me it reads like class essentialising + class reductionism + binary absolutism + crude marxism - not uncommon around Communist Party parts of the UK left IME. Could be a useful conversation.
 
REUlistic. Claw. The revolutionary space the no deal will create really will energise the proletariat. No it won't. The Murdoch press will get them to blame the EU. We're fucked. And Boris will be PM...slow hand clap...
 
REUlistic. Claw. The revolutionary space the no deal will create really will energise the proletariat. No it won't. The Murdoch press will get them to blame the EU. We're fucked. And Boris will be PM...slow hand clap...

All you ever say is that we're fucked. You have no analysis, you're just one of those tools that stands on high streets with a sign saying 'the End is Nigh'.
 
All you ever say is that we're fucked. You have no analysis, you're just one of those tools that stands on high streets with a sign saying 'the End is Nigh'.
Do you honestly think the no-deal we are going to get will be good for anyone apart from rich cunts with liquidity?
 
Tell me i'm wrong.

Look, you silly fucker, if you stand outside and say it's gonna rain every single day, you're not right when it does rain you're just a miserable prat.


Do you honestly think the no-deal we are going to get will be good for anyone apart from rich cunts with liquidity?

1. I don't think there will be a no deal Brexit.

2. If we did it would be very damaging to large sections of the capitalist class as well as having consequences for the working class.

3. What has this got to do with the point? All you ever say is that everything is fucked, nobody cares what you think because you don't really think you just repeat the same line over and over and over.

Didn't you have to pay money to the server fund because you bet me we'd have a no deal Brexit back in March? Don't you ever look back at your previous commentary and think "Oh. Maybe I should acknowledge I was wrong about literally everything?"
 
Look, you silly fucker, if you stand outside and say it's gonna rain every single day, you're not right when it does rain you're just a miserable prat.




1. I don't think there will be a no deal Brexit.

2. If we did it would be very damaging to large sections of the capitalist class as well as having consequences for the working class.

3. What has this got to do with the point? All you ever say is that everything is fucked, nobody cares what you think because you don't really think you just repeat the same line over and over and over.

Didn't you have to pay money to the server fund because you bet me we'd have a no deal Brexit back in March? Don't you ever look back at your previous commentary and think "Oh. Maybe I should acknowledge I was wrong about literally everything?"
Got the date wrong. 20 quid says we're out on halloween. Cuntbubble (as we're getting uncivilised).
 
I think now think a 2nd ref is pretty likely - unless Johnson can somehow get a deal through parliament by 31 October - possible, but i think highly unlikely he will fare better than May (and Mays deal is the only option on that front)
The Eu will not grant an extension beyond 31 october unless its for a general election or a 2nd ref.
Parliament will force a General Election rather than allow no deal.
I cant see how the tories can remain in power after a GE - they either campaign on no deal or be eaten by the brexit party. And if they do the former the party will split. And there will be furious opposition to them across the country from pretty much every quarter.
So - most likely outcome is corbyn in number 10 but relying on SNP and/or Lib dems for a majority - and their price will be a 2nd ref.
 
Parliament will force a General Election rather than allow no deal.

I am still confused how that would work, as are many commentators.

The default position is we leave on 31st Oct., if parliament votes down the government a couple of weeks before, and forces a GE, which takes at least 6 weeks to happen, we have no government to stop us leaving without a deal.
 
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