Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Ming]

What in the last 40 years would lead you to think that?

Kidding kabbes. I haven’t practiced since 1998 but i used to be an accountant (Samsung and Hi-Tech Logistics/ACCA 1st stage qualified/top 10% of my class) so i can find my way around a financial statement. I’m not suggesting a depth of knowledge that you’ve got but i’m not ignorant on these matters. I just feel that there’s probably a lot of shorting going on. If you’ve got liquidity in a distressed market you can make lots of money. JRM’s firm has made millions already off Brexit and Farage was accused by Bloomberg of using private polling data to move the market on the night of the referendum. And i think there’s a lot of that going on. Which is why i have my opinion. We’ll see what the outcome is in October. All this bluster by the Tories is just running the clock down (IMHO).
ETA: Soros and Black Wednesday? This stuff does happen.

 

[Ranbay]

 

[Poi E]

Hilarious headline from one of the Telegraph's Scotch correspondents.

With the EU in need of friends on the world stage, conditions are ripe for Boris to pull off a Brexit deal

 

[andysays]

Hilarious headline from one of the Telegraph's Scotch correspondents.

With the EU in need of friends on the world stage, conditions are ripe for Boris to pull off a Brexit deal

Choice of two jokes here

1. I didn't know the Telegraph had a correspondent devoted to writing about whisky

2. How much had they had to drink when they wrote that?

 

[Ranbay]

 

[Poi E]

Choice of two jokes here

1. I didn't know the Telegraph had a correspondent devoted to writing about whisky

2. How much had they had to drink when they wrote that?

The important thing is that he knows his place.

 

[Ranbay]

 

[TopCat]

To me it reads like class essentialising + class reductionism + binary absolutism + crude marxism .

Can some pointy head explain in plain terms what this means please?

 

[Ranbay]

 

[andysays]

Can some pointy head explain in plain terms what this means please?

I think he's saying he doesn't like it.

 

[Proper Tidy]

What a shit show

 

[Mr Moose]

What a shit show

Embarrassing little shits. They can pretend it’s just an FU to the institution but that’s not how it comes across.

 

[Teaboy]

Bunch of toddlers, both BP and the lib dems.

Then again I've been saying for a while that this subject has really brought out the stupid in some people. This is just the latest manifestation.

 

[Cloo]

Heard an interesting economic forecast from the head economist of a big real estate firm - apparently there's a much stronger belief among those in the know than a few months ago that there will now be some kind of negotiated managed Brexit, probably with a long time scale for leaving.

But yeah, those Brexit MEPs are a bunch of embarrassing nobheads.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Tbh the yellow t-shirts are just as embarrassing

 

[not-bono-ever]

It’s not the kind of message that the brave independent U.K. should be sending out to the world that it wants to make deals with. We are going to be taken to the fucking cleaners by the lot of them.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Heard an interesting economic forecast from the head economist of a big real estate firm - apparently there's a much stronger belief among those in the know than a few months ago that there will now be some kind of negotiated managed Brexit, probably with a long time scale for leaving.

But yeah, those Brexit MEPs are a bunch of embarrassing nobheads.

An estate agent?

 

[Cloo]

An estate agent?

A bit more qualified than that!

 

[Wilf]

Maybe the lib dem lice and brexit lot should fight it out in the Parliament as Champions of the 2 sides. Don't think there's ever been a fist fight in the Euro Parliament. Oh, hang on...

 

[Proper Tidy]

Maybe the lib dem lice and brexit lot should fight it out in the Parliament as Champions of the 2 sides. Don't think there's ever been a fist fight in the Euro Parliament. Oh, hang on...

Say what you like about ukip but this and the helicopter are two of the most iconic political images of the recent era

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Say what you like about ukip but this and the helicopter are two of the most iconic political images of the recent era

The full version of this one is more iconic, and one I'd be happy to see repeated in parliaments across Europe...

 

[Wilf]

The full version of this one is more iconic, and one I'd be happy to see repeated in parliaments across Europe...

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Who's he? Looks like Mr Bean channelling John Travolta in both Saturday Night fever and Pulp Fiction.

 

[not-bono-ever]

That was a bit mad that day

 

[not-bono-ever]

Who's he? Looks like Mr Bean channelling John Travolta in both Saturday Night fever and Pulp Fiction.

Turkish plod/spook who topped the Russian ambassador on live telly

 

[Poi E]

Loooong fingers

 

[1%er]

Anyone read the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017?

This is what it says:
European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017
2017 CHAPTER 9

An Act to confer power on the Prime Minister to notify, under Article 50(2) of the Treaty on European Union, the United Kingdom's intention to withdraw from the EU.

[16th March 2017]

Be it enacted by the Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—
1Power to notify withdrawal from the EU

(1)The Prime Minister may notify, under Article 50(2) of the Treaty on European Union, the United Kingdom's intention to withdraw from the EU.

(2)This section has effect despite any provision made by or under the European Communities Act 1972 or any other enactment.

2 Short title

This Act may be cited as the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017.

I have underlined 3 words under section (2) "any other enactment". Does this mean that the statutory instrument passed by parliament on Thursday 28 March is unlawful? Surely that is an "other enactment". I also can't see anywhere in the original act that there is a provision to extend ( but that is a different argument).

As I don't live in Europe I don't have an axe to grind on the UK membership one way or the other, I'm raising this point as I was asked about it by by a student of my wife's. He is studying Law and for his Masters he is covering EU law. He noticed this and asked me about it as he felt those 3 words at the end of the bill meant that nothing could stop the UK leaving on the 29th March, extension or otherwise.

I think there are one or two lawyers who post here and hope they can enlighten me, so I can pass that information on to him (apparently under Brazilian law similar wording (in Portuguese) is often used to stop changes being made to the law, other than by passing a new act through both our houses of government and not by Presidential decree.

Edit to add, my understanding is that under UK law the word enactment means "any measure ordained and promulgated by any person or body possessing legislative authority", such as the Prime Minister or Parliament or a statutory instrument.

 

[B.I.G]

Anyone read the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017?

This is what it says:
European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017
2017 CHAPTER 9

An Act to confer power on the Prime Minister to notify, under Article 50(2) of the Treaty on European Union, the United Kingdom's intention to withdraw from the EU.

[16th March 2017]

Be it enacted by the Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—
1Power to notify withdrawal from the EU

(1)The Prime Minister may notify, under Article 50(2) of the Treaty on European Union, the United Kingdom's intention to withdraw from the EU.

(2)This section has effect despite any provision made by or under the European Communities Act 1972 or any other enactment.

2 Short title

This Act may be cited as the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017.

I have underlined 3 words under section (2) "any other enactment". Does this mean that the statutory instrument passed by parliament on Thursday 28 March is unlawful? Surely that is an "other enactment". I also can't see anywhere in the original act that there is a provision to extend ( but that is a different argument).

As I don't live in Europe I don't have an axe to grind on the UK membership one way or the other, I'm raising this point as I was asked about it by by a student of my wife's. He is studying Law and for his Masters he is covering EU law. He noticed this and asked me about it as he felt those 3 words at the end of the bill meant that nothing could stop the UK leaving on the 29th March, extension or otherwise.

I think there are one or two lawyers who post here and hope they can enlighten me, so I can pass that information on to him (apparently under Brazilian law similar wording (in Portuguese) is often used to stop changes being made to the law, other than by passing a new act through both our houses of government and not by Presidential decree.

Preceding legislation only.

 

[MickiQ]

Junkers replacement is a woman, Anyone else wondering how long it will take BoJo to say something sexist when they first meet?

 

[1%er]

Preceding legislation only.

where does it say "preceding"? I fully understand your point by I'm not sure the wording only applies in that manor, surely if they only meant preceding they would have worded as such

 

[B.I.G]

where does it say "preceding"? I fully understand your point by I'm not sure the wording only applies in that manor, surely if they only meant preceding they would have worded as such

It doesn’t say preceding, but that’s the way all UK legislation works. I’m sure a practicing lawyer will be able to give more detail of greater aid to you.