Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Yeh right. History suggests. Does it really? I think not.
Lol. Have a nice lunch or something you grump.
Yeh right. History suggests. Does it really? I think not.
it's 9.43. it's too early for dinner.Lol. Have a nice lunch or something you grump.
it's a very simple point: putting something in a manifesto doesn't mean it will be adhered to. there's the lib dems' tuition fees. there's quite a few parts of the nsdap 20 point programme. not a given that something in there will be pursued.Lol. Have a nice lunch or something you grump.
Have a nice cup of tea somewhere away from a keyboard.it's 9.43. it's too early for dinner.
it's a very simple point: putting something in a manifesto doesn't mean it will be adhered to. there's the lib dems' tuition fees. there's quite a few parts of the nsdap 20 point programme. not a given that something in there will be pursued.
it's 9.43. it's too early for dinner.
Now that’s simply not true.
There will be climbdowns and fudges and lots of jiggery pokery until there’s just enough argument for a second referendum and we will be back where we where – apart from seeing the near complete meltdown of the british political establishment and possible splitting or even destruction of both of the main parties.
britain's problems would be solved by demolishing the palace of westminster with the legislators inside and convening a constituent assembly at the excel centre or some other similar sized venueI've got to admit, when the deadline of 29 March 2019 was set two years ago, I didn't think "Is Brexit actually going to happen" would still be a question people were asking on 28 March. Not sure how anybody can look at the clown show in Parliament and still conclude that the EU is the source of Britain's problems...
Maybe Sealand could invade and take over. Pretty sure they have boats so that’s at least one step ahead of the current shower.
I've got to admit, when the deadline of 29 March 2019 was set two years ago, I didn't think "Is Brexit actually going to happen" would still be a question people were asking on 28 March. Not sure how anybody can look at the clown show in Parliament and still conclude that the EU is the source of Britain's problems...
britain's problems would be solved by demolishing the palace of westminster with the legislators inside and convening a constituent assembly at the excel centre or some other similar sized venue
OK, the point about the GE I accept: there were no other options. But what are you arguing? That because in every election some people don’t vote (often including me), and some people vote for the losing proposition, that elections should be discounted? You need to state your thesis more clearly.
gosub said:
While of course I’m aware of those alternatives, I have no recollection of receiving such a letter from the government. This was issued to all households during the referendum campaign, you say?
National Archives said:This site contains government information on the EU referendum. No material was published on this website between 27 May and 23 June 2016, in line with the restrictions set out in the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000.
ETA : APOLOGIES, Health warning on what I posted below .... this quote from National Archives slightly clarifies? -- this statement was prominent on the NA page too :
But 23rd June 2016 date still looks like the date of the leaflet being published, no?? As the date of being Archived is given as 15th August 2016.
So some of my earlier points (below) still stand, probably .....
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I don't remember receiving this leaflet (?) either (I was at Glastonbury at the time and after getting back, I probably just chucked all referendum-related shit into the paper recycling).
This leaflet (gosub 's link) has got to have been separate from the sixteen page Government-issue booklet though, because (archived version) of this one is dated 23rd June 2016 ... i.e Thursday 23rd June 2016, i.e. actual referendum day -- would such a leaflet have been posted out so ultra-last minute as that?
The main booklet was definitely earlier than that anyway. But I expect I'm missing some vital point
I was born in Britain and would prefer any nationality that made a clear distinction between me and people from Kent.
Have a hankie mate. It's clean.
When will you realise that just because something is in a manifesto it does not follow it will be acted on?
I’m fucking shocked at you saying thisNot exactly gracious of me, but every time I hear a brexit supporter say if this or if that they will never vote again, I find myself saying 'good'.
Not exactly gracious of me, but every time I hear a brexit supporter say if this or if that they will never vote again, I find myself saying 'good'.
Not exactly gracious of me, but every time I hear a brexit supporter say if this or if that they will never vote again, I find myself saying 'good'.