Yep. The two realistic scenarios are May's deal somehow getting through or an extension. May's deal getting through would be an extraordinary turnaround, but we're learning never to say never with this nonsense.
yeh cos obvs no one will ever actually cancel the process. iirc this is but the latest of a series of realistic scenarios you've put forwards, with them dropping by the wayside as things change contrary to your expectations.
what goes up must come down
Never one to miss trying to get in a dig, are you, you nasty, shameless cunt. An extension could indeed be followed by cancelling the process - I haven't said differently have I, but in this particular voting sequence, cancelling A50 before seeking an extension doesn't seem realistic. You think different, say so outright, and leave the being a cunt bit to the side for once.
i don't suppose it does, to you. but then a year ago none of this would have seems plausible or realistic. perhaps you could leave the foul language to one side for a change, if you can.
If someone could point me towards reliable evidence that the UK is NOT leaving the EU, I'd be grateful for it. Sorry, but the word of an anonymous poster on a message board isn't quite enough to convince me. Ta!
Yes, it's a bit like your bizarre claims that Nancy Pelosi secretly agrees with Alexanda O Cortez about everything despite all available evidence including statements by both.
None of these arguments are really much to do with pragmatic or practical routes to socialism though are they. For those who want full-on socialism, I don't think they actually believe that Brexit is going to lead to that. It's more that they are attracted to an anti-remain position by the opportunity to wind up a certain type of remainer stereotype (which might be accurate in some ways), and by a desire not to be on the same side as them. Your enemy's enemy being your friend kind of stuff. If you squint at the Brexit vote from far enough away, you can maybe convince yourself that it was a vote against something which you are ideologically opposed to, even if it was really a vote against something a bit different to that. If you squint really hard perhaps you can make it look like a vote for socialism, I don't know. All this is why we see lots of posters on this thread saying a lot of stuff about what's bad about the EU and especially what's bad about some people who like it for certain reasons, but not really coming up with an explanation for how anything's going to be better when we're out. And posters who voted remain but want to make clear that they aren't really remainers, or who voted leave but say they didn't actually vote in favour of anything, or like to make a big deal out of how they are on neither side and it's not their argument and its nothing to do with them whilst still typing out hundreds of posts on this thread which contains pages of arguments against remaining in the EU but most of those arguments having not very much to do with the things most real-life leave voters get worked up about, but I would say that, because I just simplistically dismiss all leave voters as racist thickos, of course. Everyone will hate this post, I know.
Better part of 30 years, to be exact, in all 4 nations at some point and yes, now in Scotland. Hoots Mon!
And the EU may not agree to it even if it does. And, they have to agree to accept the Withdrawal Agreement, which seems to still be a garbled mess. The other 27 nations need to set up procedures and infrastructure to deal changes after the UK leaves, and you can understand why they ain't keen to wait until the 11th hour, and must be pretty pissed off with the UK government's internal dramas, dithering and incompetence. As my late mother would have said, "They should shit, or get off the pot."
What for though?
yeh littlebabyjesus this is why i see a cancellation of article 50 as quite realistic, following on from a refusal of the eu27 to countenance an extension for purely internal reasons.
and as it says on the bridge theme song, everything goes back to the beginning
Especially so when Another Day in Paradise is being written and sung by a faux-remorseful multi millionaire tax dodger
The 'specific purpose' would be to avoid a No Deal crash out
i suppose the surviving beatles are multimillionaires, but nonetheless thinking of a multimillionaire tax dodger like phil collins makes me think of this lovely auld song
if i can imagine the tories cancelling article 50 then of course i can imagine the headlines which might result.
No, I like it.
Not good enough (they'd say). An extension would be an agreed timescale only in order to allow the UK/EU to prepare for a defined exit (or cancellation of A50). So you need to know what the deal is before an extension is agreed, there will be agreed signposts.
if you're aiming for a huge, far away fortress you don't want a stone you want something like thisNo, I like it.
It's easier to throw a stone at someone who's not that far away from you, and you're more likely to thwack them, than if you're trying to attack a huge, far away fortress.
'They say' is the key phrase here.
The UK Government seems to be ignoring a whole swathe of crucial legal, policy and infrastructure issues - including what to do about the border in Ireland. I wish I had faith that this means they'll suddenly develop some kind of self-awareness, admit they've screwed up, and call the whole thing off. I get the sense that they are determined to plough on regardless though.
