Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Ranbay]

Why is collective victim blaming more acceptable than individual victim blaming?

 

[Pickman's model]

Why is collective victim blaming more acceptable than individual victim blaming?

i don't know, why is collective victim blaming more acceptable than individual victim blaming?

e2a: i hope this has a good punchline

 

[SpackleFrog]

Those poor little baa lambs will be slaughtered. Not like normal where they'd be err... slaughtered.

This suggests to me Brexit will mean cheap British lamb at least in the short term

Just in time for BBQ season

 

[Sprocket.]

Just in time for BBQ season

If it does occur I am sure plenty of urbs would like their freezers stocking for the summer.

 

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i don't know, why is collective victim blaming more acceptable than individual victim blaming?

e2a: i hope this has a good punchline

Cos he’s Tönnies own?

 

[SpackleFrog]

If it does occur I am sure plenty of urbs would like their freezers stocking for the summer.

Sadly I'm veggie. Maybe tofu will be cheaper?

 

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Sadly I'm veggie. Maybe tofu will be cheaper?

After Bregsit??

 

[8115]

Can I just put down that I think it will definitely happen on 21st (?) March. Probably no deal.

 

[8115]

29th.

 

[Duncan2]

Quite agree-we ,that is UK,now way past the point of no return.

 

[CRI]

Sadly I'm veggie. Maybe tofu will be cheaper?

It will all be made from All American GMO Soya beans, dontcha know.

 

[Pickman's model]

Quite agree-we ,that is UK,now way past the point of no return.

You won't believe what theresa may did next

 

[CRI]

Can I just put down that I think it will definitely happen on 21st (?) March. Probably no deal.

29th.

Quite agree-we ,that is UK,now way past the point of no return.

Agree, and strongly suspect that was the intention of the Tories, and probably Labour, too, all along. We've all been had.

 

[Pickman's model]

Agree, and strongly suspect that was the intention of the Tories, and probably Labour, too, all along. We've all been had.

You haven't, not by labour or the tories

 

[CRI]

Correction from this NYT article. Oh, what a hoot!

 

[CRI]

You haven't, not by labour or the tories

Well, both have done a piss poor job of acting in the interest of the UK, so I stand by what I said.

 

[DexterTCN]

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[Sprocket.]

You won't believe what theresa may did next

Peace Envoy for the Middle East?

 

[TopCat]

macron
“a historic success, the reconciliation of a devastated continent in an unprecedented project of peace, prosperity and freedom.”
yeah?

 

[Ranbay]

Updated version.

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Fuck you very much Wales.....

 

[CRI]

Fuck you very much Wales.....

They've pretty well fucked themselves.

 

[Fez909]

It will all be made from All American GMO Soya beans, dontcha know.

In 2014 the EU put forward a proposal to 'fast track' commercial cultivation of GM food. It is now EU policy.

The EU is no safety net against GMO in the food chain.

 

[CRI]

Pretty good summary of how we got to where we are now, and why we are so fucked.

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[redsquirrel]

macron
“a historic success, the reconciliation of a devastated continent in an unprecedented project of peace, prosperity and freedom.”
yeah?

Let's see how well the prick does in May.

Yet that is where we're heading.

And so is the EU. In fact as Combustible pointed out it's already here under CETA.

It's not national governments vs the EU, it's national governments with the EU. The two of them working together with capital to advance their common purpose. Yes sometimes there is squabbling amongst the thieves but fundamentally they require each other.

 

[CRI]

In 2014 the EU put forward a proposal to 'fast track' commercial cultivation of GM food. It is now EU policy.

The EU is no safety net against GMO in the food chain.

That may well be, but origins of food must still be labelled, so consumers in the EU can make a choice.

Are you content with the other changes to food and agricultural standards that the US would demand as part of a trade deal with the UK? This would include dropping detailed and origin labelling?

(See post #24878 and this list from the Soil Association.)

 

[Pickman's model]

Peace Envoy for the Middle East?

Close but no cigar. Crane operator for the sacn

 

[Fez909]

That may well be, but origins of food must still be labelled, so consumers in the EU can make a choice.

Are you content with the other changes to food and agricultural standards that the US would demand as part of a trade deal with the UK? This would include dropping detailed and origin labelling?

(See post #24878 and this list from the Soil Association.)

No, I am not. And it won't happen. Weakening our food standards will mean no exports to the EU, which is - as remainers are so fond of pointing out - where most of our exports go.

Weaken those standards and then British farming is truly shafted.

Are you content that "On 22nd February 2011, experts from EU member states voted to weaken GMO rules to allow contamination of animal feed with GMOs that have not been given any safety approval in Europe"? source

This is all happening now, under EU rules. and has been for nearly a decade. In 5 years time, the EU will allow full scale, commerical GMO crops: there was a 10 year period after the initial regulation mentioned in my previous post where countries can "opt out" of fast-tracking GM foods.

 

[CRI]

No, I am not. And it won't happen. Weakening our food standards will mean no exports to the EU, which is - as remainers are so fond of pointing out - where most of our exports go.

Weaken those standards and then British farming is truly shafted.

Are you content that "On 22nd February 2011, experts from EU member states voted to weaken GMO rules to allow contamination of animal feed with GMOs that have not been given any safety approval in Europe"? source

This is all happening now, under EU rules. and has been for nearly a decade. In 5 years time, the EU will allow full scale, commerical GMO crops: there was a 10 year period after the initial regulation mentioned in my previous post where countries can "opt out" of fast-tracking GM foods.

I think British farming is already shafted if the UK leaves the EU without a deal, which is looking increasingly like the outcome. Until there is a new deal with the EU, much UK produce can't be sold in the UK, as it there is no proof that it meets their quality and safety standards. EU nations have plenty of choice of where else to get foodstuffs - from other EU countries or from nations with which the EU has negotiated trade deals. Not so for a post No Deal Brexit EU. Did you see the article above about the potential for nearly a million head of lambs that can't be sold? Beggars basically can't be choosers here.

And May her Ministers have spoken many times about negotiating a deal with the US as a priority after Brexit. The US is certainly serious enough about it that the Administration has issued an 18 page report of their goals in such negotiations. The UK will be in on position to call any tunes in such negotiations Do you really think the UK Government will draw more of their famous red lines, and the US will roll over and say, "Aw sure, since it's you, we'll let you have whatever you want."

 

[Wolveryeti]

So, what part of what i posted was wrong?

The part where you stated austerity was a legal obligation for all MS - the UK opted out of the fiscal compact, as not part of the EZ.

 

[butchersapron]

The part where you stated austerity was a legal obligation for all MS - the UK opted out of the fiscal compact, as not part of the EZ.

Nope - try again. Look closely this time.