Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[chilango]

Whether nanny went to a state school or an academy, probably.

John Major already tried that one with Cameron and school mates cabinet.

Pigfucker didn't take the bait and tutted along helpfully.

 

[brogdale]

The tory party is behaving like the participants in the trans v terf war at the Bookfair, expressed in the language of 1930s Stalinism, with a light dusting of Anabaptists persecution.

Not quite Münster 1534 yet, though!

 

[cupid_stunt]

I see Yvette Cooper and Hillary Benn have met with May. They're not bothered about No Deal being off the table then?

They are both chairs of cross-party select committees overseeing Brexit, so it would be amiss not to talk with May, despite Corbyn's stand.

 

[MickiQ]

Both Plaid Cymru and SNP have been to be to see Mayhem and told her that No-Deal has got to be off the table, Corbyn should do the same. Refusing to even meet her without her agreeing this first just makes him look petty.
It gives ammuniton to those who are determined to pin as much of this clusterfuck as possible on him and possibly even risks restarting internal squabbles in the Labour Party.
That said this whole "Reach Out" shit strikes me as pointless, Taking No-Deal off the table reduces the choice to a (slightly) tweaked version of her Deal or rescinding A50, neither of those will fly with her own MP's
I think we will probably crash out with No Deal since they all seem more interested in a pissing contest than anything else.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Both Plaid Cymru and SNP have been to be to see Mayhem and told her that No-Deal has got to be off the table, Corbyn should do the same. Refusing to even meet her without her agreeing this first just makes him look petty.
It gives ammuniton to those who are determined to pin as much of this clusterfuck as possible on him and possibly even risks restarting internal squabbles in the Labour Party.
That said this whole "Reach Out" shit strikes me as pointless, Taking No-Deal off the table reduces the choice to a (slightly) tweaked version of her Deal or rescinding A50, neither of those will fly with her own MP's
I think we will probably crash out with No Deal since they all seem more interested in a pissing contest than anything else.

It's already provoked a lie from May, namely that it is not within the power of the govt to rule out no deal. That's simply not true.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Corbyn orders Labour MPs to boycott Brexit talks with government until Theresa May drops no-deal threats

When asked whether Mr Corbyn should be there, Mr Benn said: “That is a decision for Jeremy to take. He's demonstrating that it's not just the prime minister who can be stubborn.”

Ouch.

 

[butchersapron]

Both Plaid Cymru and SNP have been to be to see Mayhem and told her that No-Deal has got to be off the table, Corbyn should do the same. Refusing to even meet her without her agreeing this first just makes him look petty.
It gives ammuniton to those who are determined to pin as much of this clusterfuck as possible on him and possibly even risks restarting internal squabbles in the Labour Party.
That said this whole "Reach Out" shit strikes me as pointless, Taking No-Deal off the table reduces the choice to a (slightly) tweaked version of her Deal or rescinding A50, neither of those will fly with her own MP's
I think we will probably crash out with No Deal since they all seem more interested in a pissing contest than anything else.

May is trying to rub the blood over everyone with this move. Corbyn is entirely right to refuse to stick his hands in the wound. It's not his gang.

 

[butchersapron]

Corbyn orders Labour MPs to boycott Brexit talks with government until Theresa May drops no-deal threats


Ouch.

Orders/request.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Corbyn orders Labour MPs to boycott Brexit talks with government until Theresa May drops no-deal threats

When asked whether Mr Corbyn should be there, Mr Benn said: “That is a decision for Jeremy to take. He's demonstrating that it's not just the prime minister who can be stubborn.”

Ouch.

We could solve the energy crisis by using his dad's spinning corpse as the centre-piece of a massive power station.

 

[mojo pixy]

When asked whether Mr Corbyn should be there, Mr Benn said: "That is a decision for Jeremy to take. He's demonstrating that it's not just the prime minister who can be stubborn."

As if by magic, the shitstirrer appeared...

 

[butchersapron]

It's already provoked a lie from May, namely that it is not within the power of the govt to rule out no deal. That's simply not true.

Where's the lie? She can't. She can say she won't support it, that her party will do all they can to stop it happening but her govt cannot rule it out anymore than bielsa is able to rule out a draw against stoke this weekend.

 

[toblerone3]

We do need to rule out a No Deal Brexit and there is a majority in the HoC for it but Corbyn's current tack seems to prioritise splitting the Tories over actually ruling it a No Deal Brexit. Perhaps that will change. He is still smarting a bit from the failure of his slightly premature VONC which might have been better timed for early next week.

Much better to do something positive and practical to avoid and rule out a No Deal Brexit it such as working on motions to extend or revoke Article 50.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Surely he knew it would fail? That wasn’t the point of calling it.

 

[Pickman's model]

We do need to rule out a No Deal Brexit and there is a majority in the HoC for it but Corbyn's current tack seems to prioritise splitting the Tories over actually ruling it a No Deal Brexit. Perhaps that will change. He is still smarting a bit from the failure of his slightly premature VONC which might have been better timed for early next week.

Why? Are we expecting a sudden diminution in the number of tory mps over the weekend?

 

[butchersapron]

We do need to rule out a No Deal Brexit and there is a majority in the HoC for it but Corbyn's current tack seems to prioritise splitting the Tories over actually ruling it a No Deal Brexit. Perhaps that will change. He is still smarting a bit from the failure of his slightly premature VONC which might have been better timed for early next week.

You can't rule out the future ffs. We really are in fantasy land here.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Why? Are we expecting a sudden diminution in the number of tory mps over the weekend?

That could be arranged *gets gun*

 

[andysays]

Why? Are we expecting a sudden diminution in the number of tory mps over the weekend?

I think it's a reference to May having to present her Plan B to the Commons on Monday, but who knows what might happen in the meantime...

 

[chilango]

That could be arranged *gets gun orange and bin bag*

Cfy.

 

[Badgers]

https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-poll-remain-majortity-yougov-theresa-may-deal/

The will of the people

 

[danny la rouge]

Dear Theresa,

If you don’t want to get an extension on Article 50 because it looks bad.


“If Prince Philip dies before the Queen, she is expected to enter a period of mourning which will last for eight days.

During this time, laws will not be given the Royal Assent and affairs of state will be put on pause in a sign of respect”.

Just saying.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Dear Theresa,

If you don’t want to get an extension on Article 50 because it looks bad.


“If Prince Philip dies before the Queen, she is expected to enter a period of mourning which will last for eight days.

During this time, laws will not be given the Royal Assent and affairs of state will be put on pause in a sign of respect”.

Just saying.

Are you suggesting the breaking news was an attempt at this?

Prince Philip unhurt in crash while driving

 

[danny la rouge]

Are you suggesting the breaking news was an attempt at this?

Prince Philip unhurt in crash while driving

No, the timing is all wrong. It only buys you 8 days.

 

[toblerone3]

You can't rule out the future ffs. We really are in fantasy land here.

So you believe that No Deal is the future? Why so defeatist, surely we have to have some hope.

 

[Teaboy]

https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-poll-remain-majortity-yougov-theresa-may-deal/

The will of the people

Presumably the poll that was paid for the 'Peoples Vote' campaign?

 

[butchersapron]

So you believe that No Deal is the future? Why so defeatist, surely we have to have some hope.

No canute, i believe that you can't say such a stupid thing as i rule out no-deal.

 

[toblerone3]

No canute, i believe that you can't say such a stupid thing as i rule out no-deal.

I agree. Much better to do something positive to avoid it such as working on motions to extending or revoke Article 50.

 

[butchersapron]

I agree. Much better to do something positive to avoid it such as working on motions to extending or revoke Article 50.

So

We do need to rule out a No Deal Brexit

but you agree that it's impossible rule out a no deal brexit.

Gotcha now. Clarte.

 

[danny la rouge]

I agree. Much better to do something positive to avoid it such as working on motions to extending or revoke Article 50.

Feel free to draft one and send it in.

WriteToThem

 

[toblerone3]

Why? Are we expecting a sudden diminution in the number of tory mps over the weekend?

Not all Tory MPs support a No Deal Brexit.

 

[toblerone3]

So



but you agree that it's impossible rule out a no deal brexit.

Gotcha now. Clarte.

You can try and rule out a No Deal Brexit by declaring that you will not aim for it. But you will still need to take some actions to make it less likely. Revoking A50 would be one of them. So better to skip to the action rather than get hung up on a declaration.