brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
or not.
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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not-bono-ever
meh
ABI warning that a no deal may require the implementation of green cards as proof of insurance for U.K. cross border traffic and international drivers permits. This is proper retro. Hipster brexit.
not-bono-ever
meh
Steamer trunk , revolver and letters of introduction brexit
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Don't get all this no to no deal shit.
UK: "We want a deal, it must be a good deal, but we won't accept no deal."
EU: "Ok, the deal is, everything stays as it was. or no deal."
UK: "We want a deal, it must be a good deal, but we won't accept no deal."
EU: "Ok, the deal is, everything stays as it was. or no deal."
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
they can use the letters of introduction as kindling on the slopes of the thatcher peninsula
he isn't talking to you.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Apalling is right. That's way too many M words in a row.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
It’s one too many. Or one too few. Never rhetoric an even number (unless doing a list of pairs).
Voley
🐀
Caroline Lucas came out of her meeting saying May isn't budging on anything even if you do sit down with her.
The whole thing just gets more bonkers by the day.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Le pen calling for the convocation of the estates general to deal with the Eu question in france is rancid populism. Calling for a citizens assembly in the UK on the same issue is the height of democratic responsibility. After arguing for two years straight that parliament is sovereign of course. Another little oddity i've noticed this week.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I'd have a lot more respect for Corbyn at this point if he said as much instead of pretending he could somehow conjure up a better deal between now and March. Bearing in mind even if May called a general elction tomorrow it wouldn't actually happen for another six weeks, after which Prime Minister Corbyn would have all of ten working days to get a deal together and get it agreed by the EU and parliament.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
auld corbo likes a challenge
didn't he say an extension would be necessary now the other day?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Even so, that buys him less than two months.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Did he? Interesting if so, because up to now Labour seem to be sticking to the formulation 'we are not calling for an extension but if one becomes necessary it will be May's fault'. They are terrified of being painted as 'delaying Brexit'.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I've pretty much given up pretending to understand what's going on here now, but surely the point Corbyn should be driving, and is driving, is that May's 'red lines' have failed. May appears to be in a state of deep denial about this. It's a strong position, potentially - lay out how your negotiating position would be different (and Labour's under Corbyn would be significantly different) and what you would expect to come from it. Just removing one of May's red lines - ending free movement - would massively change things. Add in remaining in the customs union and you have a totally different position really. May's deal represents an attempt to be both hard and soft at the same time. It can't be done, so a choice between the two needs to be made, and the case needs to be made that there is no mandate for a hard brexit when nearly half of people who voted don't want any brexit at all.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
A, or the, customs union preserves the common travel area in Ireland.
Shouldn't that be the aspiration of all parties in this mess?
Shouldn't that be the aspiration of all parties in this mess?
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
At least it's giving these right wing parties a sense of what it's been like on the left for decades.
Kilgore Trout
Active Member
Isn't labour's insistence on taking no deal off the table their way of saying that they don't want anything to do with helping the tories out of their bexit mess. They'd rather just let the tories continue to fail to come up with a solution the commons can agree to rather than get involved in coming up with a viable cross party solution.
Sit back on the opposition benches and discuss when is the best time for the next no confidence vote. It's arguably playing party politics above the national interest.
Sit back on the opposition benches and discuss when is the best time for the next no confidence vote. It's arguably playing party politics above the national interest.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
There is simply nothing to suggest that May’s offer to listen is genuine. Corbyn found her out in one request.
The other parties will leave the ‘talks’ enraged soon enough.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Precisely. That chimes very closely with what I've just said here. (Should there be a second referendum? New question.).
Wish I'd seen your post first, chilango, I'd have incorporated that point.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I suppose it flows naturally when you imagine that your role is in loco parentis to society as a whole. The greater good must come from the parent.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
ideological cover for bellends basically
8ball
Maximum Facepalm
Usually used in service of making geopolitical aims look like a moral mission.
Kilgore Trout
Active Member
In one impossible request. How is it possible to absolutely rule out no deal? Its an impossible negotiating position to say you can't walk away from the table.
I see that Vince Cable has said he won't vote with Labour on any future no confidence votes now. So the lib dems at least seem more enraged with labour.
8ball
Maximum Facepalm
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