They had the chance.
'They'
Yes; they, as in the enfranchised of 2014.
The brexit vote was in 2016. What are you talking about?
Paper scissors rock
You do know what UDI stands for?
Yes...if you don't like it leave.
Yeh but democracy means whither England pulls Scotland goes [/cs]
Yes but the nyah nyah nyah was more or less from the same people who campaigned for remain in 2016. All the main parties did. It’s not them pulling us out of the EU really is it, the majority vote was to leave the EU and it could only ever be a U.K. wide vote, how else would they have gone about it, I’m sorry but Scotland had a chance to vote Yes in 2014 and it didn’t happen. If you want a future Yes vote to be upheld, please don’t go down this road because it will come right back in your face if project fear/establishment/whateveryouwantotcallthem tried to block a future majority Yes vote.
That's technically true, of course. However, that sort of shorthand is used very often. It is an aspect worth noting given the amount of newspaper commentary telling us that the "metropolitan elite" voted to remain, or that only young people voted to remain etc. There may very well have been analyses attempting to show that people with different hairstyles voted differently for all I know, or people who open their boiled eggs from the top or the bottom.
Oh, I didn't call anybody "Project Fear". The Labour Party invented that name, didn't they?
Yeah but...Watched that Benn Heath question time from 97 last week and it was same slant then oldies holding us back from joining EUro...Reality was/is thank fuck and if the EUro obsessives hadn't had a hand in it we wouldn't have had a Euro convergence unit in the treasury then maybe we would nt have chased interest rate parity and fucked the banks and the housing marketThat's technically true, of course. However, that sort of shorthand is used very often. It is an aspect worth noting given the amount of newspaper commentary telling us that the "metropolitan elite" voted to remain, or that only young people voted to remain etc. There may very well have been analyses attempting to show that people with different hairstyles voted differently for all I know, or people who open their boiled eggs from the top or the bottom.
Certainly it makes sod-all difference to May and her wonderful deals, but if one of the countries of the UK has an electorate who voted 62% to remain, that is something worth noticing. It might not be important to many, but it adds to the whole "getting Tory governments when not voting Tory" aspect of things, and might have implications for the future.
As a tangential aside, is anyone else annoyed by the "everyone over 35 or so is an ancient useless evil bastard and voted to leave and is therefore guilty of ruining the future of all younger people" narrative? And the "everyone who voted 'leave' is a terrible dim-witted racist bastard" one? That level of discourse is pretty poisonous.
You didn’t, no. I just mean like, The Establishment. The people who campaigned for remain in 2016: Tories, Labour, Lib Dem, BUISINESS *applause*, leading economists fucking... Bob Geldof.... etc. Yes I’ve no doubt some swivel eyed Tory leavers were involved in scaring Scottish people into maintaining the union but 90 per cent of the establishment is pro remain.Really? I am not sure that is the case. Admittedly, I have not read any proper surveys examining that, so it would be interesting to see some.
Also, of course, there were people who voted for independence who voted to leave the EU. It's all nicely complicated.
Oh, I didn't call anybody "Project Fear". The Labour Party invented that name, didn't they?
You were probably too busy singing "It's coming home!"I’m sorry if I didn’t use the term Project Fear with laser accurate precision but that’s because I know I’m posting to a generally clued up audience like yersel
Quite. How has this level of debate become normal or acceptable? It makes no sense whatsoever. I wonder who benefits from it.
Interesting. I was born and bred in Scotland and as far as football goes always indulged in “anyone but England” type banter... but my dad and his whole family are English. Is that a problem in your future Scottish paradise?
