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Thats the assumption the NI property developers I work for are making. "We'll be the Hong Kong of the UK!" They think they're going to make out like bandits.
That's very interesting. Thanks. I hadn't thought of that. :facepalm: Oh dear, all this big property development might not be all that good for actual people who live where these "developers" have their beady eyes on. :(
 
Civil service friend from a department with relatively little involvement in Brexit has just been telling us that in the event of No Deal she, and other civil servants like her, have been told they may be drafted in to do passport stamping at border points because there won't be enough people to handle it at short notice. :facepalm:
If people are sort of requisitioned from their usual jobs to do this passport stamping, won't that mean that their actual jobs are not being done, and that a certain amount of disorganisation and chaos might ensue? Oh, what fun and joy there will be. :eek:
 
You didn’t, no. I just mean like, The Establishment. The people who campaigned for remain in 2016: Tories, Labour, Lib Dem, BUISINESS *applause*, leading economists fucking... Bob Geldof.... etc.

The image of leading economists fucking Bob Geldof is not one I want in my head, really. :eek:

Yes I’ve no doubt some swivel eyed Tory leavers were involved in scaring Scottish people into maintaining the union but 90 per cent of the establishment is pro remain.
So the “they” that were doing the nyah nyah nyah not wholly or even mostly invested in crashing out of the EU, basically.

Sorry, but this seems a bit confusing. Not quite sure what you are addressing here. I don't think I mentioned any swivel-eyed Tory leavers. And if they were leavers, Tory, swivel-eyed or otherwise, they would not have been using the possibility of not being in the EU as a threat or disadvantage, would they?
 
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Not if you follow the Thelemick Law, young man.
 
The image of leading economists fucking Bob Geldof is not one I want in my head, really. :eek:



Sorry, but this seems a bit confusing. Not quite sure what you are addressing here. I don't think I mentioned any swivel-eyed Tory leavers. And if they were leavers, Tory, swivel-eyed or otherwise, they would not have been using the possibility of not being in the EU as a threat or disadvantage, would they?
What are you doing here? I’ll be the first to admit I’m not the most articulate poster in the world so you’ve won on that score, have at.
You talked about a pro U.K. campaign, my response was those behind the pro U.K. campaign(commonly known as Project Fear) are not wholly invested in making sure Scotland is dragged out of the EU. This is happening primarily because the people that reside within the region the vote relates to voted to leave by a majority. So for “Scotland” (or the few that claim to speak for Scotland despite the fact that Yes doesn’t automatically =remain, and remain doesn’t automatically= “ignore the democratic vote”) to claim it’s being dragged out, a mandate for independence is needed to justify that first.
And I say this as a Yes voter.
 
There is another aspect, though, in that the pro-UK campaign in the independence referendum placed a great deal of emphasis on their notion that "an independent Scotland would be at the very end of the queue to join the EU, nyah njah nyah, you will have no friends, so there!" This would have influenced some people's vote. Now Scotland is to be dragged out of the EU despite voting 62% in favour of remain.

Oh, I am well aware of that, but circumstances changed, unfortunate for anyone that only voted to remain in the UK to ensure they remained in the EU, but how many would that be?

It doesn't seem to have been very significant judging by the polls, which continue to show a strong lead in staying in the UK, which is why the SNP isn't pushing for another Scottish referendum.

I realise it doesn't matter from your point of view, but it is sort of relevant to some of us.

It's not a question of my point of view, as I posted before, it's the fact of the matter, because it was a UK wide vote.
 
Oh, I am well aware of that, but circumstances changed, unfortunate for anyone that only voted to remain in the UK to ensure they remained in the EU, but how many would that be?
Considering the queues at the Irish passport office, potentially a lot
 
So, May is making her statement to Parliament at 3.30pm concerning new assurances obtained from the EU, I doubt it'll be enough to get it over the line, but I suspect it will reduce the level by which she will lose.
 
This ethnic nationalist bullshit is exactly what Yes worked hard to distance itself from. Your sort weren’t welcome before, I only hope if Indy2 gets it’s legs sense will prevail again.
Indeed. DexterTCN also likes to talk of “your” actions to English posters, when he means something like the actions of “the UK state”. He’s big on identifying persons with states, (including himself: things the Scottish government does are always “we”). He did so recently to killer b . I made a dig, but he probably didn’t understand it.

Apparently, having the misfortune of living under the UK state equates you with its institutions, unless you are born in Scotland. In which case it doesn’t.

In my view, this belief that people born or living somewhere are identified with their government is dangerous and abhorent.
 
Indeed. DexterTCN also likes to talk of “your” actions to English posters, when he means something like the actions of “the UK state”. He’s big on identifying persons with states, (including himself: things the Scottish government does are always “we”). He did so recently to killer b . I made a dig, but he probably didn’t understand it.

Apparently, having the misfortune of living under the UK state equates you with its institutions, unless you are born in Scotland. In which case it doesn’t.

In my view, this belief that people born or living somewhere are identified with their government is dangerous and abhorent.
in that case i am disappointed that nicola sturgeon and dextertcn held meetings with alex salmond when they shouldn't have
 
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