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Is Brexit actually going to happen?

Will we have a brexit?


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It may be the intended meaning but technically the wording could be read as the other way around.
Unless Lazy Llama has been up to some technical wizardry I'm unaware of, it's not actually possible to block specific posters from reading your comments, is it?

Although I can certainly see the attraction of avoiding moronic responses to your posts by the likes of DexterTCN, so maybe that's a function which could be enabled...
 
Doesn't really work does it. A GE would only settle matters if the two main parties took opposing sides. As that isn't going to happen I think we need a referendum on Stay vs Mays Deal.

They do take opposing sides though. In fact there's more clear blue water between the two main parties than there has been in my lifetime.

I mean If all you give a shit about is brexit & could give two fucks about a nasty Tory government that has shafted the country since 2010 then sure, i could see your logic.
 
Where are the numbers in parliament coming from for this?

I don't think that it will get voted on, so the numbers won't be an issue.

I think a number of things will be going on.

First, that "no Brexit" becomes the "only sensible option" in the immediate term.

Second that A50 gets revoked "temporarily, but indefinitely.

Third that those in power "wargame" the fallout of no Brexit and figure that they can ride it out.

Fourth (and this is what I read into May's speech) that the various camps are able to all blame "someone else" for the collapse of Brexit and thus diffuse the backlash.

Utter speculation in my part of course. But that's all anyone can offer right now, no?
 
Sure, I just wanted to see your workings-out.

Personally I think cancelling brexit altogether by the executive is one of the least likely possibilities, just because of what it will do to the conservative party.
 
I don't think that it will get voted on, so the numbers won't be an issue.
It would need to be voted on, no? My understanding of the ECJ's ruling is that a unilateral revocation of A50 by the UK is allowed but only after the country's due democratic process has been followed, and that's been widely interpreted to mean a vote in parliament.
 
It would need to be voted on, no? My understanding of the ECJ's ruling is that a unilateral revocation of A50 by the UK is allowed but only after the country's due democratic process has been followed, and that's been widely interpreted to mean a vote in parliament.

There *might* be a vote on revoking A50, maybe. But it won't be an explicit "no Brexit" vote imo. It could be painted by some as buying time get "proper Brexit" organised if need be,...

Equally I'm sure the EU will be more flexible about interpreting stuff when it's iin its own interests
 
Sure, I just wanted to see your workings-out.

Personally I think cancelling brexit altogether by the executive is one of the least likely possibilities, just because of what it will do to the conservative party.

Maybe.

But if the "blame" can plausibility shifted into Labour/the rest of parliament and/or if May falls on her sword over it. They might gamble that they can ride it out and even profit from the feelings of betrayal.

Fuck knows.

May might even get her deal through for all I or anyone else knows!
 
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