8ball
Decolonise colons!
What about the "kicking the ball down the road" scenarios?
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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What about the "kicking the ball down the road" scenarios?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the road has come to a junction and they don't know which way to kick
andysays
Love and solidarity
The fantasy is your apparent belief that it would definitely happen. It might happen, but it's by no means certain.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
A50 would be revoked before a crash out, yes. You're buying into May's project fear if you believe otherwise.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
we'll see about that in 90 days or so
andysays
Love and solidarity
You appear to have a magical belief in the power of parliamentary democracy to save us at the eleventh hour from (what you regard as) disaster.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Not at all. Read back, I spelled out the reasons why this won't happen. There are lots of other ways to prevent it from happening, including something like May's deal actually getting through or extending A50 in order to renegotiate, but no deal crash out won't happen. As I said, you're believing the propaganda that is intended to scare people into accepting a shit deal if you think otherwise.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Even if it does turn out the way lbj is suggesting, it's his blind faith I'm challenging
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
every which way out is a disaster, stay is a disaster, leave is a disaster, zimbabwe+++ is a disaster, and all because of one line left out of the brexit referendum legislation saying 'and this will only happen if x% vote for a result'. as it is we have a referendum in which broadly half the voters who turned out went one way and broadly half the other.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
he should have gone to specsavers
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Try reading what I write. It is nothing to do with blind faith. fuck's sake. But well done for falling for the bullshit. The scare tactics might just work if enough people believe them.
You keep saying this, but it is the default option. I don’t know from whence get your confidence that Parliament will act to avoid this. It’s like no one is strong enough in the struggle, to take control of the wheel and the bus rolls over the cliff anyway.
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Starry Wisdom
cybershot
Well-Known Member
Hmmm, liking this idea of a general strike. : The people can prevent a no-deal Brexit – with a general strike | Jolyon Maugham
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
windmill jolyon is a gade A cunt and the sort of cunt who would scab on anything.
This is self delusion. Even if most people don’t want that, it doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Look at the dynamics.
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Starry Wisdom
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
ska invita
back on the other side
Please don't associate me in any way with what's going on
I also thinkb that scenario is looking less likely than ever... I think even less Labour MPs will support it after the last week or so of contempt/confidence votes etc.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
That's at 100 days, though. Things may look different as things roll towards 50?Please don't associate me in any way with what's going on
I also thinkb that scenario is looking less likely than ever... I think even less Labour MPs will support it after the last week or so of contempt/confidence votes etc.
ska invita
back on the other side
Yes.
What a load of shite it all is
gosub
~#
Well that 3500 troops story is actually a couple of weeks old...And it wasnt, as the Metro headlined it May doing it...It was done without formal request from civilians.
That HMG is now using that as a poker move (ffs). It isnt enough troops to deal with scale of the issue ..probably would be enough to take control of one or two significant buildings...
gosub
~#
Completely the opposite. When and where was the consultation?
And ALL the Select Comittees roasted her over that 2 weeks ago.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
gosub
~#
Seriously?
Go back and watch her last performance with the Select Committee liason . And you've got the Scots Government screaming they haven't been consulted the DUP saying they have been lied to. She's even had 2 Brexit Secretaries resign over being out of the loop on the deal as is.. All to try and do something we lost an EU Ambassador over , that can't get past Parliament.
She binned all the notes that were sent out by Government ahead of referendum and is ramming her own 'vision' through as 'will of the people' on the back of an advisory referendum ...though her vision seems only to extend as far as the colour scheme
teuchter
je suis teuchter
The consultation was in June 2016, if you didn't notice. I wasn't talking about May's decision making process but the potential 'path of least resistance' outcome of the way voting works in Parliament.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Almost certainly a by-election now in Peterborough. This voted leave in 2016. Big test for both parties. Labour will be wiped out if its further adopted remain by then...
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MP convicted of speeding driver lie
gosub
~#
And I was saying that ADVISORY referendum was remain vs 3 different outlined types of Leave. Mrs May has negotiated a "deal' that isn't along the lines of any of the 3 the public were told it would be, and done so without taking input from Parliament Government(s) and even kept the Ministers supposed to be responsible in the dark
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yep, already marginal (607) - along with a convicted MP - not looking good for Lab. Same time, she won it in2017, as a remainer. But yeah, looks like a con gain, unless ukip make a comeback and split the vote.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Sorry state of affairs when a beleaguered govt can make by-election gains mid-term. It will be an interesting test of where we are - if Labour cannot even hold on to what they have in a by-election, they're in deep shit in a general election.
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