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Is Brexit actually going to happen?

Will we have a brexit?

  • Yes - A fully independant Britain making its own way in the world (apart from scotland).

    Votes: 66 18.2%

  • A Semi-Detached Norway type deal

    Votes: 111 30.7%

  • No - 2nd referendum and/or face saving fudge to let us slink back in feeling a bit fucking stupid

    Votes: 185 51.1%
  • Total voters
    362
Perhaps Gavin Barwell encourages May to press on, crawl even towards the guns and barbed wire.
Who else will employ the man?
 
TopCat said:
Leaving sends a clear message that we don't agree with EU policy such as this?
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It's not been part of any of the discussions or reasoning as to why we left, it wasn't on the side of the bus. Why would the EU or people here think it was part of the message?. It wasn't.
 
sleaterkinney said:
It's not been part of any of the discussions or reasoning as to why we left, it wasn't on the side of the bus. Why would the EU or people here think it was part of the message?. It wasn't.
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People I know discussed it, it was pertinent to many voting leave. Staying in suggests much more strongly that remainers thought "fuck the Greeks".
 
littlebabyjesus said:
More a simple question of ignorance of the issue, I would have thought, like the implications for the Good Friday Agreement.
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yeh, this is why you should formulate the critique of politics as a critique of policy making. but you'll never do that cos you won't feel high and mighty then either.

(i didn't vote either...)
 
dialectician said:
yeh, this is why you should formulate the critique of politics as a critique of policy making. but you'll never do that cos you won't feel high and mighty then either.

(i didn't vote either...)
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You misunderstand that post if you think I think it makes me feel high and mighty. I was ignorant of the stuff Wookey posted about EU-based gay rights. I wasn't ignorant of the GFA stuff because I'm a bit of a politics nerd. I don't expect others to be politics nerds nor do I feel superior to people who aren't. But crack on with your unwarranted assumptions about me. :thumbs:
 
littlebabyjesus said:
You misunderstand that post if you think I think it makes me feel high and mighty. I was ignorant of the stuff Wookey posted about EU-based gay rights. I wasn't ignorant of the GFA stuff because I'm a bit of a politics nerd. I don't expect others to be politics nerds nor do I feel superior to people who aren't. But crack on with your unwarranted assumptions about me. :thumbs:
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No unwarranted assumptions. this thread should have been dead as early as june 25th 2016.

Not to speak of the other, lexxit one.
 
the 'what will it do for greece' argument has been discussed many times here, its a fundamental misunderstanding. You say 'what will brexit do for greece' and I say 'why do you want to remain in an organisation that will do that to a member state?'

of course the response is 'they cannot do it to us, we have our own currency' which is missing the point again with a side order of alright jackism thrown in

Now, and this applies to austerity too, the fact that remain on the whole confronts reasons like greece and austerity kickback after the fact. No, remain wasn't fuck the greeks, why would it be? You hadn't even considered them until after the fact. Nor the people knuckling under austerity. John Harris on prole safari in the guardian.
 
Those Remain nutters waving their long pole placards on the news - I suppose they think if a slogan on a bus was good enough to win 52%, they're nightly placard waving must win the public over. Logical, if you're fucking stupid.
 
wonder if tory mps will start sending more letters in to the 1922? its pretty clear she has seriously fucked a lot of them off
 
DotCommunist said:
You say 'what will brexit do for greece' and I say 'why do you want to remain in an organisation that will do that to a member state?'
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Rephrasing the question ought not to give us a different answer. What Greece would directly get from Brexit, all else being equal, is a billion euros or whatever less a year in subsidies, a slight drop in the value of its exports, a slight decline in tourism. If it also satisfies your indignation, then that would be great for you but pretty worthless to them.
 
Raheem said:
Rephrasing the question ought not to give us a different answer. What Greece would directly get from Brexit, all else being equal, is a billion euros or whatever less a year in subsidies, a slight drop in the value of its exports, a slight decline in tourism. If it also satisfies your indignation, then that would be great for you but pretty worthless to them.
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thankyou for giving me a humpty dumpty cost/benefit analysis pulled out of your arse while dismissing principles as 'indignation'. As I say the way some remainers miss the greece point is instructive, as is the timing of the counterpoints.
 
DotCommunist said:
thankyou for giving me a humpty dumpty cost/benefit analysis pulled out of your arse while dismissing principles as 'indignation'. As I say the way some remainers miss the greece point is instructive, as is the timing of the counterpoints.
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My pleasure, as always.

Call it indignation, call it principles. Either way, it adds up to nothing outside your head.
 
8ball said:
The "I love EU" people are the people I understand least in this whole shitshow.
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Quite a job trying to get to the roots of the irrationality. I don't recall this fervent level of emotional investment in a political body before. Fwiw, I do sometimes look to how we view the NHS for clues as to how/why this has happened (the only other example I can think of) - we all know the idea of the NHS being the closest we have to a national religion. All made more curious because it's demonstrably undeserved. I do come back to this notion of 'the virtuous empire'.
 
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The Fornicator said:
Quite a job trying to get to the roots of the irrationality. I don't recall this fervent level of emotional investment in a political body before. Fwiw, I do sometimes look to how we view the NHS for clues as to how/why this has happened (the only other example I can think of) - we all know the idea of the NHS being the closest we have to a national religion. All made more curious because it's demonstrably undeserved. I do come back to this notion of 'the virtuous empire'.
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The NHS is demonstrably undeserved by the people who pay for it? :confused:
 
The Fornicator said:
FFS. Have a coffee, or go to bed.
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Fair point, I misread.

I will in future, duly spurn the people who gave me the 3 machines in my chest which keep me alive as well as the external testing kit and the consumable bits and pieces they require and the ongoing laundry list of drugs and the assessments and the operations and the many times they needed to restart my heart etc. etc...

You know, I think all that stuff has made me a bit biased. Is there a re-education place I can book into? :(
 
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