Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[HoratioCuthbert]

I basically said- I like you, I like Spacklefrog. Happy chatting.
I don’t care if you guys oppose muh views

 

[ska invita]

You want May's deal to go through? Interesting - is there anyone else here who wants it to pass?

Think we need another poll I'd certainly love to see the answers!

No need for another poll - Im sure everyone who voted to leave the EU will be keeping their fingers crossed that the deal goes through eventually

 

[flypanam]

This is the thing there’s a bubble of folks across Europe that seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that it’s only fascists that oppose the EU- but can they not see the only difference here is we had a vote on it. None of them really connecting with the people where they actually live, it’s all very antisocial. Twitter pals in the twitterverse.

what does this mean?

 

[The Fornicator]

Can we just accept 'May's Deal' isn't a deal and was never intended to be a deal. It's a bargaining position from the Empire of Virtue, is all. After Tuesday the final deal that can't be reopened or renegotiated will be reopened and renegotiated.

 

[teuchter]

Of all people Pamela Anderson this morning offers clear-eyed thoughts on Brexit, and particularly Lexit. She seems to have this aspect nailed :

If you read coverage of Brexit in The Guardian, for example, you might think that the end of the world or Armageddon is due at 1pm local time on 29th March 2019, the Brexit time. The Guardian, the metropolitan elites and the likes describe the EU as some sort of humanitarian charity that is a force of unquestionable good and that nothing is more important than being a member of it, no matter what.

This is just, well, made-up nonsense. The equivalent of saying that all Brexit voters are racists.

 

[DotCommunist]

its an exaggeration or a generalisation but I have encountered plenty who seem to think our labour rights were gifted to us in the 90s by the EU. Theres also an extreme reluctance to ascribe anything other than the purest, most pragmatic of motives onto the EU.

Anyway I knew pam was onside after Barb Wire

 

[The Fornicator]

This is just, well, made-up nonsense. The equivalent of saying that all Brexit voters are racists.

And there's still plenty of that on here.

I don't think she describes it well, I do prefer Empire of Virtue (which I borrow from a specific author). That is a lot closer.

 

[Raheem]

Can we just accept 'May's Deal' isn't a deal and was never intended to be a deal. It's a bargaining position from the Empire of Virtue, is all. After Tuesday the final deal that can't be reopened or renegotiated will be reopened and renegotiated.

The UK has no leverage with which to renegotiate. Anything more than a cosmetic simulation of a renegotiation would require May or her successor to make the EU a better offer, such as Norway plus. They have no need to give the UK actual concessions, because they have the safe alternative of just watching things play out.

 

[The Fornicator]

The UK has no leverage with which to renegotiate ...

Ding! Disengage with post.

 

[Raheem]

Ding! Disengage with post.

Maybe you can come back to it in a week.

 

[The Fornicator]

A week is a long time in .. oh.

 

[gentlegreen]

 

[Smangus]

Tye best thing about Brexit is that it has finally exposed for all to see unequivocally what a bunch of hapless, witless , self-interested, venal, vain, selfish cunts our politicians are. From all parties without exception.

Of course some of us knew that already but its so obvious to all now.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Ding! Disengage with post.

You're very sure of yourself for someone who was cheering on bitcoin this time last year, insisting it wasn't a scam and that 'wall street' would stop it crashing, and urging people to buy at the peak of the bubble. You've gone very quiet about bitcoin recently, like the other cheerleaders, and resurfaced here making equally firm and bold predictions and being equally sure that nobody else *gets it* the way you do. tbh I think you're about as knowledgeable about politics as you are about ponzi schemes.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

what does this mean?

Tough crowd in here today like

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

You're very sure of yourself for someone who was cheering on bitcoin this time last year, insisting it wasn't a scam and that 'wall street' would stop it crashing, and urging people to buy at the peak of the bubble. You've gone very quiet about bitcoin recently, like the other cheerleaders, and resurfaced here making equally firm and bold predictions and being equally sure that nobody else *gets it* the way you do. tbh I think you're about as knowledgeable about politics as you are about ponzi schemes.

Gonna need to look up “ding” in the dictionary as it seems to have a more complicated meaning than I thought it had!

 

[sleaterkinney]

Put this here.

 

[brogdale]

My older Urbz comrades...I feel this needs a **blood pressure trigger warning**....but I thought you opught to see what's going down in the 'Telegraph' from all-round 'Vote Leave' cunt Matthew Elliot...



The fucking horror

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

My older Urbz comrades...I feel this needs a **blood pressure trigger warning**....but I thought you opught to see what's going down in the 'Telegraph' from all-round 'Vote Leave' cunt Matthew Elliot...

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The fucking horror

Hey I was 9 when Thatcher stepped down, the hatred is something we working class inherited like a mutation!

 

[The Fornicator]

You're very sure of yourself for someone who was cheering on bitcoin this time last year, insisting it wasn't a scam and that 'wall street' would stop it crashing, and urging people to buy at the peak of the bubble. You've gone very quiet about bitcoin recently, like the other cheerleaders, and resurfaced here making equally firm and bold predictions and being equally sure that nobody else *gets it* the way you do. tbh I think you're about as knowledgeable about politics as you are about ponzi schemes.

Posts that begin "You're very sure of yourself .. " what an odd attempt at intimidation.
You don't seem to have a grasp of ponzi schemes - ftr, the only idea is to not be holding when the music stops. I remember posting in that thread when I took the initial stake back.
Why on earth would you mention here, something quite randomly from so long ago that I have no interest in?

On reflection, this feels creepy and unsettling. It is the more so because I don't remember you at all.

 

[brogdale]

Hey I was 9 when Thatcher stepped down, the hatred is something we working class inherited like a mutation!

Apols, I've got the post 'spoons rage; what a cunt, though.

 

[Kaka Tim]

I think may is just doggedly going through the motions. She knows that her deal is going to be comprehensively defeated on tuesday - maybe she will just walk away at that point arguing that this was the best deal on offer and passing the blame what happens next on parliament. "I have fulfilled my duty in honoring the referendum result" kind of schiz.
Or maybe shes is just fucking batshit and cant think outside of her programming.

 

[mx wcfc]

I think may is just doggedly going through the motions. She knows that her deal is going to be comprehensively defeated on tuesday - maybe she will just walk away at that point arguing that this was the best deal on offer and passing the blame what happens next on parliament. "I have fulfilled my duty in honoring the referendum result" kind of schiz.
Or maybe shes is just fucking batshit and cant think outside of her programming.

If she is going to go back to the EU, she needs to be able to show them that she has done everything possible to get the deal through - it might not be bad politicking in that sense.

 

[danny la rouge]

Gonna need to look up “ding” in the dictionary as it seems to have a more complicated meaning than I thought it had!

Facts are chiels that winna ding.

 

[Sprocket.]

My older Urbz comrades...I feel this needs a **blood pressure trigger warning**....but I thought you opught to see what's going down in the 'Telegraph' from all-round 'Vote Leave' cunt Matthew Elliot...

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The fucking horror

You bad, bad, bad man!
I’ve had an attack of the vapours.
Not the pop band!

 

[brogdale]

You bad, bad, bad man!
I’ve had an attack of the vapours.
Not the pop band!

 

[Sprocket.]

Although Arthur has always been anti EU, I do not think we could ever say he and Margaret Hilda Roberts would be bedfellows on this topic.

 

[flypanam]

Tough crowd in here today like

Maybe it’s me. I just cant make sense of it.

ETA no its definitely me. Apologies.

 

[brogdale]

Meanwhile...the post claret C4 'debate' seems to be getting some folk excited..

 

[Kaka Tim]

If she is going to go back to the EU, she needs to be able to show them that she has done everything possible to get the deal through - it might not be bad politicking in that sense.

she knows she is going to get the best part of fuck all out of the EU. The EU are quite happy to sit on there hands and see what happens - they have zero incentive to help may - certainly not to the extent of conceding anything remotely meaningful - what's in it for them?