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Is Brexit actually going to happen?

Will we have a brexit?

  • Yes - A fully independant Britain making its own way in the world (apart from scotland).

    Votes: 66 18.2%

  • A Semi-Detached Norway type deal

    Votes: 111 30.7%

  • No - 2nd referendum and/or face saving fudge to let us slink back in feeling a bit fucking stupid

    Votes: 185 51.1%
  • Total voters
    362
Wookey said:
My mum said she voted Brexit because of 'what they did to Greece'.

Of course she doesn't understand one jot what has happened to Greece, she's just repeating something she heard as a retrospective justification for the idiocy of her vote.

In fact, we both know she reads the Daily Mail and is racist. I suspect many other people who suddenly have a deep and abiding need to protect Greek people are also lying about their motivations.
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Dear Old Mam in Pretend Empathy Secret Racist Shocker :rolleyes:

Do you realise what you sound like?
 
Wookey said:
I've been very controlled in my use of abusive terms actually! You should see the shit I have to delete before I post.

I'd get banned if I wrote what I really think of the Brexit loving spoonheads, misguidedly sabotaging my country, like a man poking himself in the eyes with a skewer because he doesn't like the glasses he's wearing....:facepalm:
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Your country? :hmm:
 
The Fornicator said:
You do, but only because of your emotional driven provocative drivel.
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I don't think a Tory policy is something we should be supporting. You do.

Therein lies the difference.
SpackleFrog said:
Your country? :hmm:
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Well, it used to be my country. My new Irish passport came through a few weeks ago, so I'm now Irish.

My former country is currently swirling in the toilet pan, about to be sucked out into the sewers. If the Brexit-mongering vandals who dragged us here are in charge, you can fucking keep it. I wash my hands of the lot of you.

I'm glad to say I have never found myself in political alignment with Tommy Robinson. Tell me, how does that feel? :(
 
Wookey said:
My former country is currently swirling in the toilet pan, about to be sucked out into the sewers. If the Brexit-mongering vandals who dragged us here are in charge, you can fucking keep it. I wash my hands of the lot of you.
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:D:D:D

So *your* country has been *ruined* by *vandals*?


Wookey said:
I don't think a Tory policy is something we should be supporting. You do...

I'm glad to say I have never found myself in political alignment with Tommy Robinson. Tell me, how does that feel? :(
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I don't support Tory policy, I don't support May's Brexit deal. I don't know what it's like to be in political alignment with Yaxley-Lennon, never have. Maybe we should ask you - you both seem to have some notion about *your* country being ruined by people you don't like.
 
:hmm:

snag is, if remain had won, then that would be a tory policy as well.

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tommers said:
Isn't it Johnson, JRM etc that are recommending this Norway plus thing? And it means freedom of movement, accepting ECJ etc etc. I thought that was the reason we were leaving? That sounds like all of the shit with less of the benefits.

Must be a very big plus. Wonder what it is?
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To be fair loads of people- even daily mail readers! - assumed EFTA would be what we were getting. I certainly heard that mentioned often anyway, from both socialists and just general leave voters.
 
General question: in the event of a non-deal Brexit, does anyone know if the promises made regarding the status of EU citizens living in the UK (and UK citizens living in the Continent as well of course) will definitely be honoured?

Ultimately I refuse to believe things would descend to tit-fit-tat repatriations, but it’s reaching the point where i’m considering not making plans for any foreign trips after March until matters are clearer.

Next month I will have lived here for 25 years, and have been fully employed, Inland Revenue and electoral roll-registered pretty much from my arrival, and yet I don’t trust whoever might be in government come March, or the UK Border Agency to actually let me back in if I leave the UK for a weekend away after Brexit Day.

i’ve received zero communications from the government regarding the issue of the much trumpeted ‘settled status’ I’m fully entitled to. In fact neither the deal supporters nor the no-deal advocates have said a single word about any plans even being drafted on how to process applications and grant said settled status permits. And there’s zero fucking chance they could possibly issue 2-3 million permits in three months if there is a no-deal Brexit.

This is a horrible, fucking shit situation.
 
T & P said:
General question: in the event of a non-deal Brexit, does anyone know if the promises made regarding the status of EU citizens living in the UK (and UK citizens living in the Continent as well of course) will definitely be honoured?
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I doubt it very much. I've seen it mentioned a few times that all cards are off the table in the event of a no deal. but if that's the case, the forrinas will be the least of anyone's worries.
T & P said:
Ultimately I refuse to believe things would descend to tit-fit-tat repatriations, but it’s reaching the point where i’m considering not making plans for any foreign trips after March until matters are clearer.

Next month I will have lived here for 25 years, and have been fully employed, Inland Revenue and electoral roll-registered pretty much from my arrival, and yet I don’t trust whoever might be in government come March, or the UK Border Agency to actually let me back in if I leave the UK for a weekend away after Brexit Day.

i’ve received zero communications from the government regarding the issue of the much trumpeted ‘settled status’ I’m fully entitled to. In fact, neither the deal supporters nor the no-deal advocates have said a single word about any plans even being drafted on how to process applications and grant said settled status permits. And there’s zero fucking chance they could possibly issue 2-3 million permits in three months if there is a no-deal Brexit.
This is a horrible, fucking shit situation.
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I also doubt very much you'll have problems even with the trips abroad - the beauty of the UK is there's no registration system. Just keep your library membership open and have a friend lend a ladybird book each month you're away (the Pocketscience household is in the same situation - couldn't give a fuck tbh).
Try to relax. I know it's no tonic, but half the UK's population arrived and were able to stay in the UK while enduring much worse circumstances.

good luck!
 
T & P said:
General question: in the event of a non-deal Brexit, does anyone know if the promises made regarding the status of EU citizens living in the UK (and UK citizens living in the Continent as well of course) will definitely be honoured?

Ultimately I refuse to believe things would descend to tit-fit-tat repatriations, but it’s reaching the point where i’m considering not making plans for any foreign trips after March until matters are clearer.

Next month I will have lived here for 25 years, and have been fully employed, Inland Revenue and electoral roll-registered pretty much from my arrival, and yet I don’t trust whoever might be in government come March, or the UK Border Agency to actually let me back in if I leave the UK for a weekend away after Brexit Day.

i’ve received zero communications from the government regarding the issue of the much trumpeted ‘settled status’ I’m fully entitled to. In fact neither the deal supporters nor the no-deal advocates have said a single word about any plans even being drafted on how to process applications and grant said settled status permits. And there’s zero fucking chance they could possibly issue 2-3 million permits in three months if there is a no-deal Brexit.

This is a horrible, fucking shit situation.
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Honestly I don't know but reckon you will be fine in the long run. Brexiteers have turned this country to shit and I can only apologise.

It's embarrassing that people like you don't know what the situation is. I've got a lot of friends who are in the same boat - most are just keeping on doing what they do. One has left already :hmm:
 
DexterTCN said:
I would chase it up then because they're not in a hurry to tell you and there is a timescale.

Use the first two links here to start.

settled status - Search - GOV.UK
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The reason they're not saying anything is that most of the advice on those pages are preliminary.
In the words of Mayhem: nothing's agreed until everything is agreed.
Running around getting a ton of bureaucracy sorted on the basis of speculation wouldn't be my advice.
 
flypanam said:
42% of Europe’s banking crisis paid by Ireland
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I'm calling BS on that.

2008 was catastrophic. The US went through political turmoil before it could reach it's pockets (TARP etc) to stop a horrendous run.

Europe took longer, squabbling (we do that), before money was found and then catastrophic austerity was enforced on the potential defaulters.

"Ireland paid out the crisis" - Jeeez, read your economic history. Ireland was one of the worst actors, offshooting from London. Dublin has no clean sheet on all of this.
 
Supine said:
Honestly I don't know but reckon you will be fine in the long run. Brexiteers have turned this country to shit and I can only apologise.
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Melvyn Bragg said:
We were getting on pretty well.
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Yes it was all those awful Brexiteer's the country (again "nice" nationalism raising it's head) has been "turned to shit". Nothing to do with 35 years of increasing inequality, attacks on workers, anti-strike legislation, etc. Nothing to do with the policies introduced by the LibDems you voted for that have increased poverty and created a crisis in public services.
 
Moving on.

There's been some cheap jibes here of late. And before on occasion. "If you voted leave you're a racist". "If you voted remain, you think everyone else is racist."

I've barely seen any racism here on this thread. They get sniffed out and booted sharpish.

So... there's an actual racist coming to town today. Yaxley-Lennon is rolling in.

Anyone fancy a wander? :)
 
paolo said:
Moving on.

There's been some cheap jibes here of late. And before on occasion. "If you voted leave you're a racist". "If you voted remain, you think everyone else is racist."

I've barely seen any racism here on this thread. They get sniffed out and booted sharpish.

So... there's an actual racist coming to town today. Yaxley-Lennon is rolling in.

Anyone fancy a wander? :)
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Tell him I said hi by high fiving his face, cheers ;)
 
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