Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Pickman's model]

Today's Times' 'what next?' flowchart is interesting

 

[Wilf]

Today's Times' 'what next?' flowchart is interesting

With reference to the 'Think You Can Do Better' Box, I've set my team of political scientists, lawyers and graphic designers on it. They came up with this:

 

[MickiQ]

I think the idea is you stick it on the wall and chuck a dart at it, since that is probably the most accurate way of predicting any outcome at this point.

 

[kabbes]

Today's Times' 'what next?' flowchart is interesting

Summed up as “Anything could happen in the next half hour”

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Today's Times' 'what next?' flowchart is interesting

May's fucked and chaos abounds whatever happens. Warms the cockles of my heart it does, what says andysays?

 

[andysays]

May's fucked and chaos abounds whatever happens. Warms the cockles of my heart it does, what says andysays?

Warms the heart of my cockles too, but I'm hoping the chaos and fuckedness extends well beyond the current PM and contributes to undermining the whole rotten edifice.

 

[gosub]

leave is turning out to be a people carrier that can do 0 to 60 in under 5 seconds while being economical and easy to park
What people want and what's actually possible are completely different things.

What I wanted (along with others) was a leave that was possible. What we got, was to be ignored completely.

 

[Wilf]

Summed up as “Anything could happen in the next half hour”

How Dare You! Strong and Stable.

 

[killer b]

Summed up as “Anything could happen in the next half hour”

Sort of, although an awful lot of those flows end in 'general election'

 

[Wilf]

Sort of, although an awful lot of those flows end in 'general election'

Maybe a reset involving a batwing Delorean or Bobby Ewing walking out of the shower.

 

[killer b]

(Fwiw I'm unconvinced there'll be a general election. But I'm not convinced by anything else either.)

 

[MickiQ]

Maybe a reset involving a batwing Delorean or Bobby Ewing walking out of the shower.

Now you're showing your age

 

[teuchter]

Warms the heart of my cockles too, but I'm hoping the chaos and fuckedness extends well beyond the current PM and contributes to undermining the whole rotten edifice.

What exactly is it that you hope happens, in non hand-wavy terms?

 

[teuchter]

What we got, was to be ignored completely.

It's true that nothing has happened as a consequence of the leave vote. Everything has carried on just like it would have otherwise. Everyone's forgotten about the referendum and there's nothing to see here.

 

[Wilf]

Now you're showing your age

I was born before we even joined the EU or the common market as it was in my day. At least we still had pounds, shillings and Mike Pence and you could smoke in hospitals then. It's all friends reunited and Gameboys nowadays, don't think we'll ever get the bend back in our bananas.

 

[Pickman's model]

I was born before we even joined the EU or the common market as it was in my day. At least we still had pounds, shillings and Mike Pence and you could smoke in hospitals then. It's all friends reunited and Gameboys nowadays, don't think we'll ever get the bend back in our bananas.

you were there when jesus christ had his moment and died in vain



or was that sasaferrato?

 

[Teaboy]

(Fwiw I'm unconvinced there'll be a general election. But I'm not convinced by anything else either.)

I'm guessing an election would go down pretty badly with the public. I think most of sick of it by now and when the last one got called many were more than miffed. Besides it doesn't seem to me that an election would actually solve anything. Even in the unlikely scenario of one party gaining a clear majority the parties themselves are do divided would anything come of it?

I suppose a few more loyal tories might make a May deal mark 2 possible. I can't see the tories wanting an election, they are genuinely worried / scared about a Corbyn led Labour party, more worried than I've seen them in my adult life.

 

[Wilf]

you were there when jesus christ had his moment and died in vain



or was that sasaferrato?

We used to sing that song at meetings of the European Iron and Steel Community, that Beethoven feller hadn't written The Ode to Joy yet. A simpler time. Used to play rounders at school, I was the backstop.

 

[Pickman's model]

We used to sing that song at meetings of the European Iron and Steel Community, that Beethoven feller hadn't written The Ode to Joy yet. A simpler time. Used to play rounders at school, I was the backstop.

when i was at primary school i was short for my age so i used to sit at the front but when the class became unruly sometimes i was the back's top

 

[gosub]

It's true that nothing has happened as a consequence of the leave vote. Everything has carried on just like it would have otherwise. Everyone's forgotten about the referendum and there's nothing to see here.

That I recognise as sarcasm.

The views, ideas, research and plans that I, and others put forward both here, and elsewhere, over more than a decade ARE a matter of digital record.

 

[likesfish]

What I wanted (along with others) was a leave that was possible. What we got, was to be ignored completely.

you got stuffed because people were too busy wanking to Ayn Rand and visions of singapore and the few weirdos in favor of lexit think cuba is a model worth following missing the fact they arnt even invited to the table.
EU maybe far from perfect beats being a cold wet puto rico without even the ability to dance

 

[Pickman's model]

you got stuffed because people were too busy wanking to Ayn Rand and visions of singapore and the few weirdos in favor of lexit think cuba is a model worth following missing the fact they arnt even invited to the table.
EU maybe far from perfect beats being a cold wet puto rico without even the ability to dance

puerto rico

puerto rico does of course have the benefit of a caribbean climate

 

[Crispy]

a cold wet puerto rico

 

[gosub]

puerto rico

puerto rico does of course have the benefit of a caribbean climate

How to Help Puerto Rico and Other Islands After Hurricane Maria

 

[chilango]

Puto Rico does have an meaning in Spanish perhaps though....

 

[gosub]

you got stuffed because people were too busy wanking to Ayn Rand and visions of singapore and the few weirdos in favor of lexit think cuba is a model worth following missing the fact they arnt even invited to the table.
EU maybe far from perfect beats being a cold wet puto rico without even the ability to dance

We got stuffed coz people were far more interested on venting about how those ideas were nuts than they were in working towards a pragmatic way forward.

But division always makes for more entertaining copy

 

[teuchter]

That I recognise as sarcasm.

The views, ideas, research and plans that I, and others put forward both here, and elsewhere, over more than a decade ARE a matter of digital record.

What was your plan for NI? Are you sure your plans were ignored rather than rejected?

 

[brogdale]

Only a cartographical expression of (extrapolated) polling numbers, I know, but rarely has such a map so starkly screamed political failure.

btw, wtaf is wrong with the sampled folk in those 2 red constituencies?

 

[Raheem]

Only a cartographical expression of (extrapolated) polling numbers, I know, but rarely has such a map so starkly screamed political failure.

btw, wtaf is wrong with the sampled folk in those 2 red constituencies?

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But note that using the Condorcet method, May's deal wins, according to the same survey. Nicely illustrates the fallacy that voting necessarily gives you the people's will.

 

[gosub]

But note that using the Condorcet method, May's deal wins, according to the same survey. Nicely illustrates the fallacy that voting necessarily gives you the people's will.

Makes you wonder why they bother with votes. Mayb3 cost benefit analysis is that the sham is cheaper than dealing the public order problems of not having them