Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[lizzieloo]

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That made me laugh so hard I worried my dog.

 

[Patteran]

Rees-Mogg has put his letter in.

And made it public -

 

[Chz]

Rees-Mogg says all the negative predictions about Brexit have not come to pass.

It is hard to hear Rees-Mogg because a protestor is shouting in the background.

He says there are “streams of talent” in the Conservative party, and plenty of people who could be leader. He names a series of Brexiters, including Boris Johnson and David Davis.

Those streams, they aren't talent. Can you guess what they really are?

 

[Sasaferrato]

Odd that Gidiot's so smug when it was (one of his many) failings that got us to this point in the first place.

Well, he and Cameron are no longer MPs, so let them shout from the sidelines. (And stay there.)

 

[lizzieloo]

Isn't she gonna be proper chuffed if she gets her P45 at this point? I bloody would be.

"Bye then..."

 

[Brainaddict]

Seriously, is there actually new info about what a post-Brexit deal would be in all this? The media and politicians are obsessed with the backstop arrangement, but that's not a Brexit deal, it's a brexit non-deal. I still have no idea what the proposal on the table is or what the substantive points of it are, if any. Perhaps it's because I'm only half paying attention, but any help appropriate to my attention span would be appreciated.

 

[Sasaferrato]

And made it public -

To whom do I submit my letter of no confidence in Rees-Mogg?

 

[Sasaferrato]

Isn't she gonna be proper chuffed if she gets her P45 at this point? I bloody would be.

"Bye then"

I do feel for Theresa May (yes, I know she asked for the job), the last three months must have taken years off her life. TBH, were I her, I would quit, take my pension, and retire to the Outer Hebrides for a few years. It's like herding cats, an impossible task.

 

[alex_]

For once I agree with you.

I suspect that something like this will happen. The government will struggle to get it through parliament but with a lot of arm-twisting and theatrics and some very minor tweaking it will ultimately pass.

And Hs4 to link Belfast and Derry.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

So JRM is in the 'stalking horse' role then? Historically you would favour someone who publicly backs the sitting PM to end up winning. Perhaps we should be keeping note of all those giving public statements of support for May over the next few days.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I do feel for Theresa May (yes, I know she asked for the job), the last three months must have taken years off her life. TBH, were I her, I would quit, take my pension, and retire to the Outer Hebrides for a few years. It's like herding cats, an impossible task.

I feel exactly the same amount of compassion for Theresa May as she showed to the people she summarily deported from the UK in order to meet some quota target she had made up.

 

[Winot]

Seriously, is there actually new info about what a post-Brexit deal would be in all this? The media and politicians are obsessed with the backstop arrangement, but that's not a Brexit deal, it's a brexit non-deal. I still have no idea what the proposal on the table is or what the substantive points of it are, if any. Perhaps it's because I'm only half paying attention, but any help appropriate to my attention span would be appreciated.

The fear is that it will take perhaps 10 years to negotiate an FTA with the EU and therefore that we will be in transition until that happens with the power on their side. Also that the terms of the WA will basically end up being in the FTA.

 

[Sasaferrato]

I feel exactly the same amount of compassion for Theresa May as she showed to the people she summarily deported from the UK in order to meet some quota target she had made up.

I see. A government minister must not do that which is a manifesto pledge? Surely by your scenario she is fucked either way?

 

[billy_bob]

I do feel for Theresa May (yes, I know she asked for the job), the last three months must have taken years off her life. TBH, were I her, I would quit, take my pension, and retire to the Outer Hebrides for a few years. It's like herding cats, an impossible task.

I feel for her too. Loathing, contempt, disgust, schadenfreude...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I see. A government minister must not do that which is a manifesto pledge? Surely by your scenario she is fucked either way?

This is an attempt at parody, yes?

 

[Wilf]

and if you've just joined us here's a list of today's resignations
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6 resignations - one for each of Jacob Rees Mogg's children.

 

[not-bono-ever]

I feel exactly the same amount of compassion for Theresa May as she showed to the people she summarily deported from the UK in order to meet some quota target she had made up.

She has taken years off peoples lives during her time in the house - best get her into the oily hold of that south Atlantic bound tramp steamer to enjoy her deserved retirement

 

[Sasaferrato]

This is an attempt at parody, yes?

No. Whereas I did not agree with the immigration policy, it was policy, and was a manifesto pledge. As Home Secretary, it was her duty to carry this out.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Wow.

 

[billy_bob]

No. Whereas I did not agree with the immigration policy, it was policy, and was a manifesto pledge. As Home Secretary, it was her duty to carry this out.

Are you mad? One of the most senior jobs in government and you think 'just following orders, guv' is an acceptable excuse?

 

[not-bono-ever]

Fuckibg duty. Duty.

For fucks sake

 

[Brainaddict]

Seriously, is there actually new info about what a post-Brexit deal would be in all this? The media and politicians are obsessed with the backstop arrangement, but that's not a Brexit deal, it's a brexit non-deal. I still have no idea what the proposal on the table is or what the substantive points of it are, if any. Perhaps it's because I'm only half paying attention, but any help appropriate to my attention span would be appreciated.

I'M SERIOUS WHAT IS THE DEAL???!!

 

[Sasaferrato]

The fear is that it will take perhaps 10 years to negotiate an FTA with the EU and therefore that we will be in transition until that happens with the power on their side. Also that the terms of the WA will basically end up being in the FTA.

So, effectively we will be under EU 'rules', but with no voice?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I take my orders from the people of Britain.

Except those people of Britain. Those people of Britain I take from their homes and shove on a plane.

 

[Kaka Tim]

So JRM is in the 'stalking horse' role then? Historically you would favour someone who publicly backs the sitting PM to end up winning. Perhaps we should be keeping note of all those giving public statements of support for May over the next few days.

 

[belboid]

I see. A government minister must not do that which is a manifesto pledge? Surely by your scenario she is fucked either way?

Manifesto pledges are more important than the law? Or the right to life?? And she didn't keep the bloody pledge anyway!

 

[Pickman's model]

I'M SERIOUS WHAT IS THE DEAL???!!

asking yourself a question like this is the second sign of madness

 

[SpookyFrank]

I do feel for Theresa May (yes, I know she asked for the job), the last three months must have taken years off her life. TBH, were I her, I would quit, take my pension, and retire to the Outer Hebrides for a few years. It's like herding cats, an impossible task.

Her government has taken years off many lives.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Wow.

I really don't understand you here. A government minister has an obligation to carry out the function of that office. The Home Office is in charge of immigration. If a party has made a manifesto promise to reduce immigration, and is elected, then the have at least a moral obligation to fulfill their manifesto promise.

Other than being deliberately argumentative, which seems to be your default position on most things, do you actually have a point to make?

 

[Calamity1971]

Her government has taken years off many lives.

If not taken lives.