Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Pickman's model]

it's a pair with the one that was posted earlier

 

[cupid_stunt]

Sky News reporting that EU citizens in UK will need five years consecutive residence to be eligible for UK citizenship with their families, that's a fair few left out.

Someone was explaining this earlier - no EU citizen already here will be required to leave, and once they reach the 5-year point, they can apply for permanent rights to stay.

 

[Pickman's model]

The reason there weren't any restrictions on them coming (or perhaps we should say living and working) here is because Britain was part of the EU.

If/when Britain ceases to be part of the EU, it's difficult to justify why the rules for EU citizens should be more favourable than those for anyone else.

to be honest, no it isn't. it isn't difficult at all.

when countries stopped being governed by britain it didn't over night become vastly more difficult for people from india, jamaica, canada to live and work here.

e2a: also we all know that whatever the uk imposes it imposes on uk citizens in the eu because all these things will end up being adopted by eu countries

 

[xenon]

All these Tory Brexit cunts, still have no alternative deal. If they bring May down and replace her, then what. What’s the plan? Ah yes the No deal corporatist Disaster capitalism Wonderland they have hankerd four.

 

[Pickman's model]

another albeit minor resignation

Wilf

 

[Pickman's model]

you can see how the numbers of people talking about this have declined significantly over the course of the morning

 

[bemused]

All these Tory Brexit cunts, still have no alternative deal. If they bring May down and replace her, then what. What’s the plan? Ah yes the No deal corporatist Disaster capitalism Wonderland they have hankerd four.

No deal won't get through Parliament.

 

[Pickman's model]

No deal won't get through Parliament.

quite. there will be no no deal. the uk will end up remaining within the eu, rather chastened and very embarrassed by all the fuss

 

[bemused]

quite. there will be no no deal. the uk will end up remaining within the eu, rather chastened and very embarrassed by all the fuss

On the 27th November the ECJ rule if article 50 can be revoked. If they rule it can, I'm hoping to see the delicious moment when the Tory hordes who vote against this deal sit in the Commons watching a50 reversed.

 

[paolo]

Someone was explaining this earlier - no EU citizen already here will be required to leave, and once they reach the 5-year point, they can apply for permanent rights to stay.

That was my reading of the text.

What I now can’t remember is what happens if you’ve not yet got to five years, by the end of the transition period.

Can you stay? If you can, what happens if you leave to go on holiday? Can you get back in and legally carry on working? Is there a maximum time for that holiday, after which you are deemed to have left and broken the continuous period you’ve been accruing?

I’m off to re-read.

 

[dessiato]

quite. there will be no no deal. the uk will end up remaining within the eu, rather chastened and very embarrassed by all the fuss

I'll take that.

 

[billy_bob]

quite. there will be no no deal. the uk will end up remaining within the eu, rather chastened and very embarrassed by all the fuss

And I can imagine it'll go down very well with the others when we clear our throats and pipe up with, 'Er, anyway ... about our rebate...'

 

[Pickman's model]

And I can imagine it'll go down very well with the others when we clear our throats and pipe up with, 'Er, anyway ... about our rebate...'

it will be a small price for the eu to pay to know the uk will never rock the boat again

 

[Pickman's model]

and if you've just joined us here's a list of today's resignations

 

[Badgers]

you can see how the numbers of people talking about this have declined significantly over the course of the morning

We want to see the rats leaving the shitting ship

 

[Pickman's model]

We want to see the rats leaving the shitting ship

 

[littlebabyjesus]

So May will have to resign if this isn't voted through parliament? Listening a bit to her this morning, she has stuck herself to a few things: 1. Brexit has to happen, 2. Brexit will happen next year on the agreed date, 3. This is a good deal and is the way brexit should happen. She should be getting quotes from a few removals firms, I reckon. Still, she's lasted more than a year longer than I thought she would.

 

[Ranbay]

May, today

 

[Badgers]

Seems 'this' is 'on' apparently

 

[Yossarian]

quite. there will be no no deal. the uk will end up remaining within the eu, rather chastened and very embarrassed by all the fuss

Best just to turn up and act like nothing happened. If they get shitty about it just say the whole thing was a joke and they don't understand the British sense of humour.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I'm thinking its been the plan all along.. . Negotiate a terrible agreement that no one wants then put that next to no deal and no brexit. Let the public pick no brexit and you can pretend you did your best.

I am increasingly wondering if May hasn't basically made the supreme sacrifice on behalf of her class, knowing it would make remaining in the EU or at least the Single Market the most likely outcome.

 

[Pickman's model]

Seems 'this' is 'on' apparently

boris 'billy bunter' johnson

 

[Pickman's model]

I am increasingly wondering if May hasn't basically made the supreme sacrifice on behalf of her class, knowing it would make remaining in the EU or at least the Single Market the most likely outcome.

she'll be on strictly next year

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Same as I'm looking forward to in France FWIW - and currently over-60s don't even have to pass a language test ... but I'm already thinking up the vocab for my visa interview.

Donnez-moi mon visa, vous mangeant du fromage singe se rendre.

 

[Badgers]

Has Our Nigel said anything yet?

 

[weepiper]

Rees-Mogg has put his letter in.

 

[Mr Moose]

quite. there will be no no deal. the uk will end up remaining within the eu, rather chastened and very embarrassed by all the fuss

Theresa will be pictured coming out of a shower and the whole thing will be forgotten ‘Dallas’ style.

 

[lizzieloo]

Her party is full of bitter, ranting lunatics. Maybe her behaviour seems relatively sane and reasonable, but remember that she clawed her way to the top of the shitheap that is the tory party, so she's only got herself to blame if her attempts at being reasonable and realistic fail utterly.

Also she's not reasonable at all. Her obsession with deportations is not reasonable, her devotion to austerity is not reasonable. There's no rational case to be made for that stuff, it's all just driven by a combination of hatred and bloody-mindedness.

I didn't say she was reasonable, I would never say that of a Tory. I was just saying I don't understand why the fury about the whole thing is on her (a remainer) like I said in my post I'm not talking about the way the negotiations have gone, this has been the case right from the start.

she changes her mind more than i change my pants.

Which is the whole point of Parliamentary debate and democracy, isn't it?

Digging your heels in and not listening to reason or understanding that you can change your mind when the errors in your thinking is pointed out to you is what toddlers do.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

quite. there will be no no deal. the uk will end up remaining within the eu, rather chastened and very embarrassed by all the fuss

Will claim it was all just bantz.

 

[lizzieloo]

And let us never forget what an utterly vicious shit-cunt she was as Home Sec.

Yes,like a said a total cunt but how does that make Brexit her fault