Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Ranbay]

Can someone explain why May gets so much stick about this whole Brexit thing (without burning me to a crisp), when...

1. it was Cameron's idea, and when he didn't get the result he was expecting he slithered off to guffaw whith his chums in a wood paneled room somewhere.

2. She voted remain.

3. She's following the democratically chosen route against her own opinion.

This isn't all about negotiations, I started to wonder why people were giving her, personally, such a hard time right from the start.

Now don't get me wrong, she's clearly a cunt of the highest order, she's a tory politician, nuff said, but the "May, how dare you spoil everything" thing just makes no sense to me.

Be kind, I'm genuinely a bit

she changes her mind more than i change my pants.

 

[DotCommunist]

well, the buck stops there. Nobody forced her to take on Camerons mess. She wanted the poison chalice. And so people are going to vent at the person who chose to be in charge here. Liberals pretending that they would ever vote labour left have been giving corbyn, who is not in charge, loads of shit rather than attack May as well. motivations

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

She's gone full Upminster now, Radio Rental, Chicken Oriental...

Tory MP Mark Francois, a Brexiteer, says "I agree that the whole house accepts that you have done your best."

"The Labour Party have made plain that they will vote against you, the SNP will vote against you, the Liberal Democrats will vote against you, the DUP, our main ally, will vote against you, the 80 Tory rebels will vote against you - and the number of those is going up in the hour," he adds.

Mark Francois says "the stark reality, prime minister, is that this deal was dead on arrival before you stood up".

"I plead with you to realise the political situation," he says.

Theresa May says "we will go forward with the final negotiations at that European Council meeting on the 25 November and, after this, members of this house will look at the details and consider our duty to deliver on the vote of the British people."

 

[SpookyFrank]

Can someone explain why May gets so much stick about this whole Brexit thing (without burning me to a crisp), when...

1. it was Cameron's idea, and when he didn't get the result he was expecting he slithered off to guffaw whith his chums in a wood paneled room somewhere.

2. She voted remain.

3. She's following the democratically chosen route against her own opinion.

This isn't all about negotiations, I started to wonder why people were giving her, personally, such a hard time right from the start.

Now don't get me wrong, she's clearly a cunt of the highest order, she's a tory politician, nuff said, but the "May, how dare you spoil everything" thing just makes no sense to me.

Be kind, I'm genuinely a bit

Her party is full of bitter, ranting lunatics. Maybe her behaviour seems relatively sane and reasonable, but remember that she clawed her way to the top of the shitheap that is the tory party, so she's only got herself to blame if her attempts at being reasonable and realistic fail utterly.

Also she's not reasonable at all. Her obsession with deportations is not reasonable, her devotion to austerity is not reasonable. There's no rational case to be made for that stuff, it's all just driven by a combination of hatred and bloody-mindedness.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Her party is full of bitter, ranting lunatics. Maybe her behaviour seems relatively sane and reasonable, but remember that she clawed her way to the top of the shitheap that is the tory party, so she's only got herself to blame if her attempts at being reasonable and realistic fail utterly.

And let us never forget what an utterly vicious shit-cunt she was as Home Sec.

 

[Badgers]

She's gone full Upminster now, Radio Rental, Chicken Oriental...

That is gold

 

[SpackleFrog]

Out of interest, how many Brexiteers left in cabinet? Aren’t they just leaving Remainers to run Brexit?

But they keep their Brexiteer credentials!

 

[SpookyFrank]

And let us never forget what an utterly vicious shit-cunt she was as Home Sec.

Indeed, see the edit to my previous post.

 

[Dr. Furface]

Can someone explain why May gets so much stick about this whole Brexit thing (without burning me to a crisp), when...

1. it was Cameron's idea, and when he didn't get the result he was expecting he slithered off to guffaw whith his chums in a wood paneled room somewhere.

2. She voted remain.

3. She's following the democratically chosen route against her own opinion.

This isn't all about negotiations, I started to wonder why people were giving her, personally, such a hard time right from the start.

Now don't get me wrong, she's clearly a cunt of the highest order, she's a tory politician, nuff said, but the "May, how dare you spoil everything" thing just makes no sense to me.

Be kind, I'm genuinely a bit

She didn’t exactly do herself any favours or make any friends by calling a general election (which she’d previously ruled out) to try and bolster her position, then run a disastrous campaign that resulted in her losing the majority she had and then having to rely on the support of the loathsome DUP. Also, she then unnecessarily set out her ‘red lines’ for the negotiation in a vain attempt to try to appear resolute to the Brexiteers, which because she was never going to be able to stick to them, has led to their further dissatisfaction with her leadership. Fundamentally, nothing she could have done would satisfy the Brexit hardliners, but by trying to keep as many people onside as possible (in an admittedly impossible situation) she’s only managed to piss more people off.

 

[Ranbay]

She now says we will leave the EU on the 29th March 2019


So that's us staying in now then

 

[treelover]

Sky News reporting that EU citizens in UK will need five years consecutive residence to be eligible for UK citizenship with their families, that's a fair few left out.

 

[Poi E]

That's the time everyone else has to do. Why should it be different for EU citizens?

 

[DotCommunist]

And let us never forget what an utterly vicious shit-cunt she was as Home Sec.

an exercise in how spineless our media is. They know she was the architect of the hostile environment, we all know. Yet Rudd was an acceptable scalp, that was enough to get them to pipe down.

 

[editor]

 

[treelover]

None about Scotland either, to think they went crawling there before the Indyref with all sorts of promises, if i was there I would be incandescent.

 

[Supine]

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Probably best left out of this shit show

 

[Ranbay]

I like how they all ask one question and then fuck off down the bar.

 

[tommers]

Haha, she's offered the Brexit job to Gove.

That's funny.

 

[Badgers]

Haha, she's offered the Brexit job to Gove.

That's funny.

Where is he in the barrel ?

 

[ffsear]

I'm thinking its been the plan all along.. . Negotiate a terrible agreement that no one wants then put that next to no deal and no brexit. Let the public pick no brexit and you can pretend you did your best.

 

[Brainaddict]

So can anyone tell me what this deal is? I haven't even seen a summary that makes sense yet.

Tried to watch corbyn in parliament but his speech was so dull that I was grateful when it accidentally switched off.

 

[DotCommunist]

I like how they all ask one question and then fuck off down the bar.

shaky hands by 1030 that lot

 

[littlebabyjesus]

That's the time everyone else has to do. Why should it be different for EU citizens?

Because they came here on an understanding that there were no restrictions on coming here?

If anyone thinks this is a non-issue, I would remind them of the Windrush shitshow, orchestrated by the very same T May, with its roots in a legal change away from a very similar automatic right to live and work here for people from the Commonwealth.

 

[Badgers]

 

[gentlegreen]

Sky News reporting that EU citizens in UK will need five years consecutive residence to be eligible for UK citizenship with their families, that's a fair few left out.

Same as I'm looking forward to in France FWIW - and currently over-60s don't even have to pass a language test ... but I'm already thinking up the vocab for my visa interview.

 

[andysays]

Because they came here on an understanding that there were no restrictions on coming here?

If anyone thinks this is a non-issue, I would remind them of the Windrush shitshow, orchestrated by the very same T May, with its roots in a legal change away from a very similar automatic right to live and work here for people from the Commonwealth.

The reason there weren't any restrictions on them coming (or perhaps we should say living and working) here is because Britain was part of the EU.

If/when Britain ceases to be part of the EU, it's difficult to justify why the rules for EU citizens should be more favourable than those for anyone else.

 

[paolo]

Chuckles was supporting brexit five minutes ago.

Was he? I must have missed that.

 

[Wilf]

Right, I've been to the hospital and just logged on again AND NOBODY ELSE HAS RESIGNED! I don't not pay my TV licence for that kind of thing, it's a diabolical liberty!

 

[elbows]

 

[Pickman's model]

Same as I'm looking forward to in France FWIW - and currently over-60s don't even have to pass a language test ... but I'm already thinking up the vocab for my visa interview.

bon chance mon ami