Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Yes,like a said a total cunt but how does that make Brexit her fault
Who cares? Never pass up a chance to fuck up a cunt.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I don't think so. It went wrong for her brexit-wise last year at the election. Giving her perhaps more credit for foresight and tactical awareness than she merits, the calculation behind that election may have been that a majority of 12, or whatever it was, wasn't enough to push a messy compromise deal through parliament, knowing that a messy compromise deal was all she was ever going to get. But a majority of 50+ may have been enough. Since the election, she's been more or less in constant panic mode ever since that premature pre-agreement announcement of an agreement with the DUP. I suspect she may be as surprised as anyone that she's still in a job.
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Starry Wisdom
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Yes,like a said a total cunt but how does that make Brexit her fault
It depends who you are talking about when you say she is being attacked. The hardline Brexiteers are attacking her because she isn't delivering unicorns. Remainers are attacking her because she has screwed up the softer options (e.g. triggering Art 50 too early and insisting on red lines like no single market option and no ECJ oversight).
My view fwiw (as a staunch Remainer) is that she has ended up with a deal which is probably the best available given the corner she painted herself into.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
And remember that May ruthlessly manoeuvred herself into the top job through brexit. She deserves every ounce of the blame she is getting. 
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
All going strictly to plan, then
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Starry Wisdom
strictly come backstabbingAll going strictly to plan, then
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Couldn't happen to a lovelier bunch of cunts.
Oh those wacky Brits
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Under it.
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
If May goes and a headbanger becomes PM, we may rue the loss of these calm and stable times
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
I would agree, and would wholeheartedly support a general election, if I thought that Labour had a scintilla of a chance of doing better. I don't though.
We need a second referendum, now we have an idea of the outcome from leaving the EU. I declare my bias, I voted to remain.
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i for one would like to see a famous headbanger installed, step forward lord ozzie osbourne
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bemused
Well-Known Member
Front-page of The Standard reporting that Give's turned down the Brexit Secretary job
He's too busy with his leadership bid.
So, residency rights... here’s the main points based on my re-read of the draft text.
Everything is reciprocal, EU - UK citizens have same rules for rights in the host nation.
Continuous residency of five years gets you permanent rights.
The period can include post transition period, as well as before.
Continuous can be broken... here’s the specifics, which are part of a previous EU directive on freedom of movement:
“Continuity of residence shall not be affected by temporary absences not exceeding a total of six months a year, or by absences of a longer duration for compulsory military service, or by one absence of a maximum of twelve consecutive months for important reasons such as pregnancy and childbirth, serious illness, study or vocational training, or a posting in another Member State or a third country.”
Also:
If you leave for five consecutive years, you can lose your acquired permanent rights.
There’s more detail about admin processes, e.g. not invoking extra charges for applicants etc, but the above are the key points I’d say.
Everything is reciprocal, EU - UK citizens have same rules for rights in the host nation.
Continuous residency of five years gets you permanent rights.
The period can include post transition period, as well as before.
Continuous can be broken... here’s the specifics, which are part of a previous EU directive on freedom of movement:
“Continuity of residence shall not be affected by temporary absences not exceeding a total of six months a year, or by absences of a longer duration for compulsory military service, or by one absence of a maximum of twelve consecutive months for important reasons such as pregnancy and childbirth, serious illness, study or vocational training, or a posting in another Member State or a third country.”
Also:
If you leave for five consecutive years, you can lose your acquired permanent rights.
There’s more detail about admin processes, e.g. not invoking extra charges for applicants etc, but the above are the key points I’d say.
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Starry Wisdom
yeh which is what i said
The above leaves some vulnerable edge cases, but I think in practice they will be very rare. E.g. you’ve been clocking up time in the UK, working for a multinational. They then want to move you to an EU office for longer than a year. You may then not be able to come back.
I expect most employers won’t force that on staff, but if one wanted to be nasty, they *could* do it.
I expect most employers won’t force that on staff, but if one wanted to be nasty, they *could* do it.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Odd that Gidiot's so smug when it was (one of his many) failings that got us to this point in the first place.
And remember that May ruthlessly manoeuvred herself into the top job through brexit. She deserves every ounce of the blame she is getting.
A-ha. That makes sense
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