Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Pickman's model]

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst UKIP
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming no-deal brexit is at hand.

C4u

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

This isn't - as you you initially suggested - anything to do with Freedom of movement?

An ugly fracture in Schengen. But not freedom of movement.

I'll ask again: Do you, in your job, understand the difference?

Yes, freedom of movement is the right to settle and work, vs. Schengen which is the right to roam. Bit tricky to work and settle if you can’t cross the border though.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

There hasn't as far as I know ever been a time when EU citizens didn't need to show ID at internal border checks. British (and Irish?) citizens need a passport because we don't carry ID cards, but this isn't a specifically anti-offshorers thing.

Supposedly you can cross the Schengen zone without any checks, UK and Ireland not in that zone so checks to enter either from that zone.

 

[not-bono-ever]

plenty of checks across road borders in the EU - states still have the ability to impose these for whatever reason they pull out of the hat

 

[brogdale]

May's double bluff being double bluffed.

EU leaders are set to hold an extraordinary “no deal” Brexit summit in November to deal with the potential disaster of the UK crashing out of the bloc should Theresa May fail to deliver decisive progress on the Irish border issue this week, the Guardian can reveal.

A special meeting of heads of state and government at which the EU had hoped to finally sign off on the Brexit negotiations next month will instead be turned into a emergency summit to discuss the bloc’s response to a cliff-edge Brexit.

The plan is set to pile further pressure on the prime minister by illustrating the EU’s seriousness about allowing the UK to crash out if the alternative is a deal that would undermine the integrity of the single market, or prove to be unacceptable to the Republic of Ireland.

She's fucked unless the PLP's class traitors save her skin.

 

[teqniq]

...She's fucked unless the PLP's class traitors save her skin.

Which is looking like a distinct possibility according to this

 

[brogdale]

Which is looking like a distinct possibility according to this

Yeah, but that is from the Daily Clickbait (oncewerejournalists) and contains a good many 'ifs'...

 

[DotCommunist]

is it that john rentaghoul again

 

[teqniq]

brogdale Yeah fair enough, that why I said 'according'

 

[teqniq]

No not Rentboy, somebody by the name of Benjamin Kentish.

 

[brogdale]

is it that john rentaghoul again

Someone called Benjamin Cuntish, apparently.

 

[RedStag]

Yeah, but that is from the Daily Clickbait (oncewerejournalists) and contains a good many 'ifs'...

well, you couldn't expect anything less from the spineless Labour party these days - they are a national disgrace

 

[brogdale]

well, you couldn't expect anything less from the spineless Labour party these days - they are a national disgrace

Oh yes, there are plenty of spineless class traitors within the ranks of the PLP that are, and have been, a national disgrace.

 

[DotCommunist]

ummuna, philips, dirty danczuk the borderline nonce, williamson 'my gob is more important than the party' . Truly my cup runneth over. Owen 'I know where NI s on the map' Smith.

 

[Poi E]

Still, there's the Festival of Bits of Britain.

 

[brogdale]

Looks like Raab has been summoned to Brussels to finalise the deal that will produce the desired fudge that will best support the Brejoin process

 

[brogdale]

Reports that today's talks have broken down over NI.

 

[brogdale]

Somebody on twitter asked if the final Brexit result will be resolved using the Duckworth Lewis method!

 

[Kaka Tim]

cant see any deal that will have both the DUP and the labour traitors voting for it. EU will only agree to all of uk in customs union or just norn iron with sea border.

 

[Pickman's model]

Reports that today's talks have broken down over NI.

Sure Ireland would be better off without the bloody crown

 

[Pickman's model]

Looks like Raab has been summoned to Brussels to finalise the deal that will produce the desired fudge that will best support the Brejoin process

Chocolate fudge or nothing

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Chocolate fudge or nothing

and if the talks are happening in belgium, lots of waffle

 

[Pickman's model]

and if the talks are happening in belgium, lots of waffle

And mayo on chips

 

[SpookyFrank]

cant see any deal that will have both the DUP and the labour traitors voting for it. EU will only agree to all of uk in customs union or just norn iron with sea border.

With Corbyn now on record saying he'll support a customs union deal, labour traitors may not be required. I wouldn't want to be May trying to get the DUP back onside after such a deal was made, but she's the one who shat that particular bed in the first place.

 

[brogdale]

cant see any deal that will have both the DUP and the labour traitors voting for it. EU will only agree to all of uk in customs union or just norn iron with sea border.

Agreed; you've got to wonder if she's all but given up on the Unionists and put all her eggs in the Lab basket to neutralise her swivel-eyed loons?
Wonder if that was the strategy all along, just using the DUP for immediate survival...to be ditched when the SHTF?

 

[Kaka Tim]

Labour are not going to vote for any deal may comes back with - they've said that. Why on earth would they save her? She's fucked.

 

[brogdale]

Labour are not going to vote for any deal may comes back with - they've said that. Why on earth would they save her? She's fucked.

Depends to what extent it's possible to talk of Labour as one disciplined unit. There will be some from Leave constituencies who are none to keen to see a Corbyn govt. and have more of an eye on their own majority.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Depends to what extent it's possible to talk of Labour as one disciplined unit. There will be some from Leave constituencies who are none to keen to see a Corbyn govt. and have more of an eye on their own majority.

how many labour mp are going to go agasint the whip and vote to save a tory government? they'd be crucified.

 

[brogdale]

how many labour mp are going to go agasint the whip and vote to save a tory government? they'd be crucified.

Would be sold as the will of the people...their people...the ones that elect them...not the metropolitan elite...nation before party..blah..

Can't you see some of the fucking weasels coming out with that sort of stuff?

 

[tommers]

how many labour mp are going to go agasint the whip and vote to save a tory government? they'd be crucified.

Didn't they do that just recently?